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mrskaz
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Today's AMC was nothing more than a vomit inducing mess...

Alicia Minshew still acts the pants off everyone around her....and Susan Lucci still shines...but the so-called Christmas Miracle made me sick...

First off, they should name today's show:

"Greenlee is a Saint, Hero, Bestest Person ever because Kendall & Maddie say so"...

Maddie acting like GL is a freaking saviour because she helped her to the hospital was bad enough, but that BS with Kendall made me explode...

I'm sick of TPTB using Zach, Zach's name, Zach's memory, Kendall, and every freaking one else to prop/pimp GL...

Zach would never have pushed Kendall to let that vile, viscious witch back into her life..

GL gets her best Christmas ever... All her crimes are shoved under a rug... Kendall is back to being her lap dog.... Let's all dance in the streets & cheer...

I hated it.... I hated every second of it...

I don't give a flying flip who much Frons loves his precious Rebecca Budig... . I don't care that Frons has a hard on for the character of GL...... I will NEVER, NEVER accept Kendall being used to prop that piece of garbage character...

I will NEVER, NEVER believe this crap about Zach guiding Kendall back to that vile green witch...

BS....

I did love Erica's expression when GL announced that she has her lapdog back....because it was the same expression I had....only I was madder...

Pimp, prop, whitewash, rewrite whatever.... I will NEVER accept this and I will NOT watch this ish...

Kendall letting go of her anger would have been great.... I can accept that, because then she can move on...but Kendall acting like that vile witch is her BFF and apologizing to it...

Poor GL stuck in an elevator..... Whinning..... Well goody.... GL got her Christmas Miracle, but Kendall and the fans of AMC got screwed...

I will not waste another hour of my day on the Greenlee Show......

Alicia Minshew or not... .This show sucks..... I will watch AM on anything, but I will not watch AM wasted on carrying Frons pets through thier s/l..... No more...

Sorry, but I knew it would be a bad show... Knew it was going to be all about pimping GL, but watching it just ticked me off....

I hope the hell the ratings plummet, because AMC is dead...... The Greenlee/Rylee Pimpfest continues...

I want to add something else to...

We are supposed to believe that Zach wrote that journal on the yatch... Didn't Zach think that witch was dead when they were on the yatch... Not to mention, when they found out that vile green witch was alive, he told her to leave his family alone....or else...

Not buying what Frons & Co are desperately trying to sell...

I get that the character of GL is useless.... I get her s/l suck and she can't be redeemed by her own actions... I also get that without Kendall cleaning up the messes, no one would really bother, but ENOUGH!!!

FREE KENDALL NOW!!!

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I totally agree with everything you said. Poor Alicia Minshew. I know she had to move out to California to finish out her contract but here's hoping that her renewal was not for a long length of time. She cannot get out of there fast enough in my book.There are so many holes in all the current storylines, it's ridiculous. I feel bad for the true talent on the show. They are being pushed aside for the new characters like Griffin & Cara or are being forced to worship @ the altar of Rylee. Give me real scenes like Kendall & Tad talking about their grief of losing their soulmate rather than this crap of what a God Griffin is. I don't think there is anything the show can do to get out of the mess they're in.This show is by far the worst on daytime currently. Yet ABC promotes the hell out if it & the best soap on daytime, OLTL, gets the shaft time & time again. A major housecleaning needs to occur starting w Frons & then moving on to the EP & HW.

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Quote: Give me real scenes like Kendall & Tad talking about their grief of losing their soulmate rather than this crap I loved that scene....MEK & AM rocked... but most importantly, It Made Freakin Sense....Kendall apologizing and letting that thing back into her life, DOES NOT MAKE SENSE...The only reason I see TPTB keeping the character of Kendall strapped to those two useless waste, the gruesome twosome known as Rylee is because they need AM/Kendall to get viewers to watch those two...Won't happen...There is way too much water under the bridge... Way too much damage has been done....and the fact that once again the show revolved around GL, what GL wanted, GL's so-called pain, GL's miracle is BS...They promoted this as a Christmas Miracle for Kendall and that was another LIE>...Greenlee has done far to many vile, disgusting things to Kendall and her family..and she never freakin pays...If TPTB think that by having Kendall forgive that vile piece of crap, if they think that by having Kendall say that nothing is GL's fault and all is okay that we fans will be okay & accept it, they better freaking think again..I've seen nothing, but negative responses to today's GL propping/pimping fest.... and I've seen and heard from a lot of people who have decided today was the last time they will watch..Some were holding out to watch the amazing Alicia Minshew work thier the grief and build a new life for herself and the boys, but many, many, many fans refuse to watch Kendall be once again reduced to GL's lapdog, Rylee's whipping dog, and the one who will always be blamed when everything falls apart....Once again, Frons agends for his pets outwieghed common sense & what the fans wanted...GL gets her miracle... She gets her happy X-Mas, her crimes washed away without having to pay and KEndall becomes nothing more than a freaking Rylee, GL prop...Good Luck with that one Frons...

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For me the miracle is that AMC is still on the air given the fact Rebecca Budig and Cameron Mathison are front and center. I still am trying to figure out why Frons thinks these two can carry this show. They've proven they cannot, yet they still are dominating or should I say hogging airtime.How can I or anyone give any sympathy to this character when in one scene she's blubbering to Kendall that all she wanted for Christmas was her friend back and then in the next scene, manipulate Madison into leaving Pine Valley and keep the fact that Ryan will be a father again from him? She's plain hateful and vicious. She never gets what's coming to her or suffers any consequnences. Only Kendall or Erica suffer consequences for their actions none of the other women in PV do. No wonder the ratings get 1.6.I would really have liked to see Kendall drop kick Grenelee back into a coma.Father Clarence should have stayed wherever the hell he was if this was the miracle he performed.And yes Greenlee was still dead when Zendall were on the yacht. So the journal is just another piece of Greenlee agenda driven crap. It should have brought solace and comfort to Kendall without the mention of the leach Greenlee. It should have surrounded Kendall with the love that Zach had for her and their boys, so that she could heal and move on without using Zach's love to yet again pimp Greenlee who cannot carry a storyline. No wonder Erica had such a constipated look on her face when Kendall said 'we're back'One more thing...why is Randi still on this show? I have to take heavy duty narcotics to watch her. It causes such a visceral pain watching her. Even my FF button groans through her scenes.

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I have to say that even though it's sad what Frons & Co are doing to AMC, I'm happy to see the fallout from thier agenda driven decisions...On many other boards, including ABC/AMC & Soapnet board, Frons & Co are taking a betting for this crap...Fans are outraged again...Fans are ticked off that Zach, Zach's memory, Zendall was once again used to push another GL whitewash, rewrite, coverup agenda....Fans are ticked that of all the characters to recieve a so-called miracle & end up with a happy X-Mas, that it was GL of all people...Fans are angry that after such great writing for KEndall and the stellar performances AM has been handing out, that they go from amazing writing to junk in the blink of an eye...The mass majority are in agreement that it was good to have Kendall let go of her anger, but the worst mistake since BOB to have Kendall embrace that vile green gnat again....Eat that Mr. Frons..... Chew on it, choke on it, and hopefully someone will give you a pink slip because of it...

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I haven't watched AMC since September and this is why. This show isn't worth me wasting an hour of my life. So the way i see it, AMC is the one that should be cancelled right now. Why waste another penny making that mess and putting it on our screens. I feel sorry for the actors, to have to portray the characters, and put up with this ridiculous writing. Everything about this show is a joke.

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Let me say this. As much as I hated this episode and the fact it was yet again Greenlee centric,it was better than than the alternative of having Kendall finished with her grieving and move on with the brute Griffin. Yes he's a brute. The way he manhandled her when he found her in David's room was just brutish. Zach would never handle her or or any woman that way.His respect for Kendall and every woman was admirable. Is this what the writers want the fans to find so sexy in this shirtless wonder? Sorry but Kendall should have gone to Jack and Jesse and had him arrested for assault and battery. He's a lout and no ladies man, he's another Ryan. As for Greenlee. I haven't the foggiest notion why Frons and Co. think that the Kenlee dynamic is worth anything at all. This so called friendship is one sided, on Kendall's part only. It's toxic with the toxin being Greenlee. It's plainly unhealthy for Kendall and certainly it was for Zach. And yes Greenlee should have been the one to die and be at the bottom of the ocean or should have stayed dead on the bottom of the river last year.

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I agree with all said. I haven't watched since the tornado 2 years ago. I do catch a scene here and there....Greenlee used to be a fun, bitchy character. She had redeemeing qualities, and had love to give (Leo). Now, she really is just an idea of the originall GL, and it is a mess. And it is sad.I honestly do not think that either actor RB or CM can act worth a darn. I KNOW CM is a noce guy, but his one-note acting is chore to watch. Same for her. Wanna know who else fits the bill? VMG over at GH...the Brenda hour.

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Quote: As for Greenlee. I haven't the foggiest notion why Frons and Co. think that the Kenlee dynamic is worth anything at all. This so called friendship is one sided, on Kendall's part only. It's toxic with the toxin being Greenlee. It's plainly unhealthy for Kendall and certainly it was for Zach. And yes Greenlee should have been the one to die and be at the bottom of the ocean or should have stayed dead on the bottom of the river last year. You are not alone in wondering about that, but I truly believe that Frons knows GL, Ryass, Rylee can't stand on thier own so they need AM/Kendall to attempt to fix it...The fact is this, Rylee are toxic to Kendall... Kendall always losses... it's always Kendall's fault... Kendall pays the ultimate price, while Rylee are rewarded.....I see little to no support for this with the exception of some GL fans who want GL to have a scapegoat, lapdog around....Paul, ITA with about CM/RB/VMG.... Frons loves them and forces them down our throats at the expense of everything and everyone, but I think CM/RB moreso...RB can play the nasty biotch with no heart, soul, conscious.... It's when they attempt to paint GL as the victim, heroine is when it all falls apart.......RB doesn't do soft.....JMO...The Rylee hour will never stop..... and Frons insists on pushing Kenlee, but I'm seeing more & more fans who have decided to tune out, because they don't want to watch another second of AM/Kendall being used this way.....

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You are not alone in wondering about that, but I truly believe that Frons knows GL, Ryass, Rylee can't stand on their own so they need AM/Kendall to attempt to fix it... Which is why, if he knows this, they should be supporting only.Just a rhetorical question, but if Frons knows that Greenlee and Ryan cannot stand on their own, why are they in the forefront? Doesn't he want his business to be successful? Pets or not, if the man was an astute business man, he would know to stop featuring his personal favorites and sell what the customers want.

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Personally, I don't believe Frons is a good business man... if he was than his obvious, heavy handled favoritism & agendas wouldn't be happening...A good businessman would have never moved the show to LA....A good businessman would hire decent writers..A good businessman would never have let TK, DC, ER, JB, etc go.....all the while keeping CM, RB....No offense to CM & RB, but there characters are just useless and they aren't up thier with VI, SL, MEK, TK, DC, DM, DW, AM, etc....JMOI truly believe Frons rules by his ego......and that is the problem....the man thinks whatever he does is right & too hell with fans, the show, etc...Frons has proven time & again that he has no business running ABC, but they keep him and fans continue to wonder why..This is the same man who didn't get the appeal of Alicia Minshew, who made insulting comments about the very talented Kathy B of OLTL....etc.....Frons, his favs, & his agendas are ruining ABC daytime & have for years...

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No offense but I said if Frons was good businessman . I really cannot comment definitively on his business acumen , I don't know what goes into running a TV network.... But if he is running it like a business, he's failing.JMO which doesn't amount to a hill of beans, but the man should have fired Pratt long before he did. That man decimated this show. They had a window of opportunity to win back the trust and loyalty of veiwers when Lorraine Broderick took over but she failed. Instead of reversing and correcting the nightmare that Pratt created she just swept everything under the rug. Greenlee and David had some support. She could have just stopped the inane storyline that had Grenelee seeking revenge on people living their lives when she was supposedly dead. No she made it more convoluted and worse. She could have reversed the paternity of Bianca's misbegotten spawn, and fixed the lesbian storyline; stopped the Rylee train; stopped the sleaziness that is JR and Annie,the biggest ho in daytime. But no she swept it under the rug.... And the ratings have declined ever since. It's just me and maybe it wouldn't have been so simple, but all of those things could have been the imaginings of Kendall while she lay in a coma from Pratt's 'it's going to change everything you ever knew about AMC', tornado. Yes keep Babe dead, Bianca was never pregnant, Kendall just imagined it because Zach had just asked her to have another child,then Bianca showed up; Annie was still in the psycho ward, Stuart was not dead, Adam remarried Brooke; keep Ryan with Madison and write him a relationsahip like the one he had with Gillian, make Greenlee mature and keep her on the backburner, get rid of Natalia, Josh is not dead but still gone and no heart transplant for Kendall; that was totally unnecessary.This is one fan that would have accepted all of this and then I wouldn't feel guilty about kicking this show when it's down.When this board is idle for days on end I guess that speaks volumes too. It's sad. Aside from Susan Lucci and Alicia Minshew, there's no reason to watch.

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Cararn, I applaud your entire post..I meant no offense about your thoughts on Frons....Just so you know, your opinion means a lot......and it is appreciated very much....Pratt should never have been hired in the first place.... Niether should have B&E......but it seems to me the one thing this mess has in common is Brian Frons...B&E set out to destory Kendall, take everything from Kendall, Zach, her kids, etc and hand it to GL without allowing Kendall to fight back..... That failed...Pratt hated AM/KEndall and wanted to replace her with his creation, which Frons allowed... he tried to hand the fake lesbian Kendall's life, but failed, then tried to do the same with Fake Liza, and that failed.... and Frons approved it all...ITA about LB... I was expecting more, but for some reason she didn't deliver either.. could that be because Frons is calling all the shots...I too would have accepted a story like you described...... anything that got rid of Reeks, that BOB, all of it......but instead we get this ish..The only time they rewrite, whitewash, cover up anything is in the name of Ryass, GL, Rylee and since they are hated, it doesn't work...It is very sad what is happening to AMC.......but it won't stop until someone at the top stops it.....Until then, I feel these are AMC final days & sadly AM, SL, MEK, DW, DM, VI are all wasted on the Rylee Hour from hell...

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No offense taken. AMC, and I hesitate to say this, but it's substandard. I'm not sure any writer, but especially these can elevate this show from the morass it's in.The storylines aren't the only problem for me as a viewer, it's that there aren't any characters that are watchable except for Alicia Minshew and Susan Lucci, but there has to be more than that. They cannot carry the entire show.Ryan and Greenlee need to go. JR is a joke without Adam. Annie shouldn't have been and Griffin, Cara, and Asher, who cares?Wake David up. Give Jesse and Angie more to do. I love Frankie but jeez, poor Cornelius Smith,get rid of Randi or recast her with someone who can act.And please bring back Thorsten Kaye so there's a real man on AMC who does not need to take his shirt off to show his talent.

 

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