I believe some of the sites that post spoilers get the CBS recaps in advance. So if they don't want to spoil it, they shouldn't mention it in the recap. Of course, they could always edit the recap later.

I don't think there's anything weird going on behind the scenes. If the show was against Nuke, Nuke wouldn't even be still on the show.

It has been post on another site that:(As for the lack of promotion for this new turn of events, it may have been a deliberate strategy to avoid giving protesters a chance to pressure the network from cutting the storyline.)

Many posters, including Nuke fans, know how to access those recaps online before the show ever airs. If they included it, people would have known in advance. People have been complaining for a long time that the show spoils too much in advance and there are no longer any real surprises and now they come up with a big surprise and get criticized for that. Also this is hardly the first time that the CBS recap has left something out or put something in that never aired. I've never seen them go back and change what was in the recap. I don't buy that this is any conspiracy.

Regardless of how anyone spins this or the excuses provided. This is still a case of TPTB treating the couple differently by sweeping a major event in their storyline under the rug.Mark, I hope that you realize that there are likely differing opinions about this storyline amongst TPTB at ATWT. That much is clear from a lot of what happened in 2008. To pretend that the couple is supported by everyone in a position of power at ATWT just because the characters are still on the show is quite naive considering all that has happened with this couple, both on the show and behind the scenes.Ron, I think you are giving ATWT far too much credit in claiming that this solely done to prevent protesters. Even if that was the case and I don't believe for a moment that it is, it's a sign that the story is not supported very well when ATWT is not willing to even promote and acknowledge afterwards that a much anticipated and historical event has occured on the show, Be it either out of fear, shame or a mix of both, it all adds up to the show not standing behind their own storyline regardless of how it is spun.WorldTurner, JP herself said that ATWT received a ton criticism over Parker and Liberty having sex, yet this didn't prevent them from releasing spoilers indicating Parker and Liberty would "make love" even the second time around. So ,the logic you and others are using to excuse TPTB's actions here only seems to apply to Luke and Noah. Most times that a couple makes love on the show, it is mentioned in either the various spoilers or in the recap and many times in both. Especially, if it is an important event in the storyline.(Which this was) The fact that the the soap magazines didn't cover it either only adds to the question as to what the REAL reasoning is for TPTB to sweep this storyline under the rug.

I will put it out there Mala did you know before it happend or not if you did why did it not get put in the mag.Ron

Quote:I will put it out there Mala did you know before it happend or not if you did why did it not get put in the mag.Ron I don't think that Mala is in a position to answer for TPTB and I don't expect her to. Either the mags knew about it and didn't report it because ATWT didn't want them to (they have admited to doing this before) or ATWT didn't let them know about this an advance. Regardless which it is, this still runs counter to how TPTB normally promotes the show. Why would they not want to promote a much anticipated event? As I said before, had there been a couple of hints or teasers in the mags/spoilers would have likely increased viewership yesterday. Why it was not mentioned in the recap, further raises my suspicions.I'm NOT saying that everyone at ATWT is trying to brush the story under the rug, but I think there is evidence that some are. Whoever releases the videos at ATWT.net has done a good job of helping to promote the storyline IMO. They have also released the cut bench scene which I applaud them for doing. Speaking of, some are saying that it seem like there could have been a scene cut between Noah taking Luke's shirt off and them coming out of the shower and I agree that the transition is quite choppy and that could be the case. Hopefully, if a scene was cut, we will hear more about it or even get to see it, like we did the bench scene.

As others have mentioned, the CBS recaps often get leaked early. I see it on the message boards all the time. Stripping the sex from those recaps (which are likely written in advance from teasers and not whilst watching live) keeps the spoilers from getting out.

In which I'm entirely grateful for, in regards to NUKE's first time. It was a nice little surprise in seeing AND knowing that those two were finally able to express their love in a sexual way. Not everything has to be known 2 or 3 weeks in advance.Quote:As others have mentioned, the CBS recaps often get leaked early. I see it on the message boards all the time. Stripping the sex from those recaps (which are likely written in advance from teasers and not whilst watching live) keeps the spoilers from getting out.

Quote: As others have mentioned, the CBS recaps often get leaked early. I see it on the message boards all the time. Stripping the sex from those recaps (which are likely written in advance from teasers and not whilst watching live) keeps the spoilers from getting out. Mala,I've seen mention that a couple makes love in several CBS recaps, so this is definitely an anomaly. I don't buy that keeping it a secret for the sake of the fans was the reasoning here. I gave TPTB a pass when Luke and Noah started kissing again with no promotion after the ban because 1. they should have been kissing all along and 2. it was obvious that the kiss scene was inserted as an afterthought, so it likely wouldn't have been included in the spoilers. They don't have that excuse here. TPTB built this moment up for the fans, They made it such an outstanding issue in Nuke's storyline they everyone was expecting something really special. I don't buy the need for them to so desperately keep a much anticipated/historical moment so secret that it even needs to be scrubbed from the recap. I'm sorry, after all that has happened with this couple and all he slaps in the face we have had, I just don't picture TPTB saying "let's not spoil this for the fans" and taking the extra effort to ensure that it wasn't mentioned or hinted at in spoilers or in the CBS recap as well as the soap magazines. Had ATWT put more effort into the actual scene and had it lived up to what they built it up to be, then, maybe I would be willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, but they dropped the ball on the scene and IMO it appears that they made their best effort at brushing the whole thing under the rug.

Quote: In which I'm entirely grateful for, in regards to NUKE's first time. It was a nice little surprise in seeing AND knowing that those two were finally able to express their love in a sexual way. Not everything has to be known 2 or 3 weeks in advance. I'd be more grateful for a non-spoiled love scene if there was reasonable effort put into said love scene. We actually saw more skin and physical contact in the scene where they were jumping on the bed, than we did in this scene. Don't get me wrong it was cute and the argument/kiss scene before it was great. But this was a scene that was built up so much that their "Blink and you'll miss it" scene didn't even come close to measuring up. Why they couldn't show them in afterglow under the sheets, sharing their thoughts and postpone the ice cream party with grandma Lu until the next episode is beyond me.

None of the recaps since 12/22 have mentioned that sex was being discussed, even though it was under discussion the whole time. Anyone reading about the show would have had no idea that the boys were moving toward having sex--while anyone watching and paying attention to the dialogue, to the thrust of the plot, had to believe it was coming very soon. Those who were watching were rewarded for their dedication; those who wanted to swoop in for the big day were given a sneak peek scene that was as good a clue as any that the blessed event was finally upon us. And those who didn't want it to happen didn't have a clue! Pretty darn clever of the show, honestly.Also, if the show had promoted the hell out of it (like the did the two-minute reunion after Noah went to Rome) I would have expected more--rolling around in bed, perhaps. As it was, I thought what we got was pretty perfect.I still want to see them in bed, though!

Quote: None of the recaps since 12/22 have mentioned that sex was being discussed, even though it was under discussion the whole time. Anyone reading about the show would have had no idea that the boys were moving toward having sex You actually reinforce my point her Richard. TPTB has been brushing this storyline under the rug for a long time. It was widely publicised that Parker and Liberty would have sex and that they wanted to have sex. Did they do the same for Luke and Noah? No. Did they spend as much airtime on Nuke's love scene as they did on Parker & Liberty's? No. Quote: while anyone watching and paying attention to the dialogue, to the thrust of the plot, had to believe it was coming very soon. You could have said the same at the begining of 2008 when they were talking about how badly they wanted to have sex, before the subject was suddenly dropped. The truth is that none of us knew whether it would happen, that day, next month, next year or never.Quote: And those who didn't want it to happen didn't have a clue! Pretty darn clever of the show, honestly. What difference would it make if those that don't want it to happen know about it? Most people her are claiming that TPTB are not ashamed of the storyline, what better way to prove that than to stand behind it in the face of this supposed opposition? Instead, extreme secrecy and code names for sex are being praised? I guess ATWT doesn't take lessons from their own storylines, because Luke and Noah's storyline is a bigger closet case than Brian.Quote: Also, if the show had promoted the hell out of it (like the did the two-minute reunion after Noah went to Rome) I would have expected more--rolling around in bed, perhaps. As it was, I thought what we got was pretty perfect. True, but that's giving them two excuses... One for keeping this storyline in the closet, so to speak, and one for not putting adequate effort into Luke and Noah's first love scene. The storyline should not exist in a veil of secrecy and there should have been a better effort on their first love scene.

After reading Lynn Leahey's comments on this whole situation regarding ATWT failing to alert SOD & SOW to promote this scene and essentially throwing away valuable cover space on both magazines, I'm convinced that my original assertions are 100% accurate. As a whole, ATWT/TeleNext/P&G are ashamed of this story and while they may enjoy getting praise for running the story, they don't want the story in the spotlight, even when it's merited.

I personal liked the fact that they surprised me. Sometimes with the magazines and the spoiler alerts there isn't much we dont know about as it happens. What got me was the fact that they went from taking off their shirts and kissing to the after sex dry off from the shower. that was a crock. no bed scenes, no snuggle afterwords, no passion. I mean when the rest of them hit the sheets there is like 10 minutes of hoot and holler and all that yammering.

Quote: I personal liked the fact that they surprised me. Sometimes with the magazines and the spoiler alerts there isn't much we dont know about as it happens. Well, it is nice to be surprised sometimes, but that's not really what this is about. If you don't want to see spoilers or promotions, you don't have to. That is a choice. The fact is that this couple is being treated differently in that they are not being promoted in the same way other couples on the show is the issue. Even their really big moments are allowed to slide with little to no fanfare which is not only unfair to the fans, it's unfair to the actors. Van and Jake deserve promotion and exposure every bit as much as any other actors on the show and TeleNext has been consistently denying them such exposure by downplaying the storyline and keeping big, historic moments like this under wraps. I can understand why they kept the kiss that broke the ban under wraps, they were probably embarrassed by all the negative publicity that the kiss ban got them, but in this case there is simply no excuse to brush this big moment for Luke and Noah under the rug.

My guess is, they'll get all kinds of promotion - the absolutely free variety - all over the internet, since this his aired, among the segment of their audience who are generally more accepting of Luke and Noah's story anyway - without the risk of upsetting those conservative viewers who would have found out early had the show chosen to promote the event by conventional means. Only a theory of course, but perhaps that was their strategy. If by chance it was, it worked - the masses are talking, and an overwhelming majority of them are raving.

Quote: My guess is, they'll get all kinds of promotion - the absolutely free variety - all over the internet, since this his aired, among the segment of their audience who are generally more accepting of Luke and Noah's story anyway - without the risk of upsetting those conservative viewers who would have found out early had the show chosen to promote the event by conventional means. Only a theory of course, but perhaps that was their strategy. If by chance it was, it worked - the masses are talking, and an overwhelming majority of them are raving.

concidering that the previous anti-gay campaigns failed to hurt ratings, I doubt that is the case. P&G has also been the targeted by these conservative anti-gay groups before for reasons unrelated to ATWT and nothing has ever come of it. Those campaigns are more bark than bite. CBS and ATWT have acknowledged that they have received overwhelming support, compared to complaints about this storyline. Most of those people placing complaints are not even viewers, they participate via email action alerts or church bulletins. Any viewers that are so vehemently against gays being portrayed fairly have long since left the show or have made it a point not to watch the Nuke scenes.

Beyond the vocal and "raving" VH.net bunch, There are many others that are unhappy, underwhelmed or just thankful that ATWT finally allowed Luke and Noah to have sex. Regardless if these viewers are raving or unhappy about the cute Luke and Noah scene, It's doesn't mean that they condone TPTB treating the couple unfairly as far as promoting of their storylines go. BTW, a billion forum comments by die hard fans doesn't make up for TPTB throwing away a great chance to promote the story and the show to gain more viewers and to allow Van and Jake's storyline to be featured in the soap magazines in a way that ATWT storylines rarely get the opportunity to be featured.