Great post, Gator!I was going to post something similar as well. I'm not saying goodbye. As Zach once said to Kendall says, "No goodbyes, never have [said goodbye], not going to start now..."I look forward to Kendall AND Zach returning someday.ABC/AMC has to realize what a mistake it is to let this amazing actor get away and will do all they can to get Thorsten Kaye back in Pine Valley as Zach. I'm keeping the faith that I'll see Zach and Kendall's story continue.

I too am saying goodbye to Zendall and Thorsten Kaye with an enormous amount of gratitude to Mr. Kaye for bringing Zach Slater to life and leaving such a indelible mark.Without him there will be an enormous abyss on AMC.I am also bidding goodbye to AMC as of 2:00 PM this afternoon. I leave with not a small amount of anger at the show that I have faithfully followed for thirty years, since I was in elementary school.I wish I could be as magnanimous as you Gator and leave my anger behind for just one day, but Thorsten Kaye's poignant, and moving last scenes on AMC just magnified for me the incredible loss AMC has just suffered, and in light of what is left on AMC, intensified my anger.My anger is directed at Mr. Frons who did not have the wherewithal to fire Charles Pratt and Julie Hanan Carruthers many months ago. Perhaps then he could have hired a competent writer to correct all the mistakes Pratt made; and a competent producer who could have kept the show within its budgetary bounds and precluded this move to LA which would have kept Thorsten Kaye and Alicia Minshew on the show. Instead the irresponsibility of the ABC executives has caused one of, if not the the most magnetic and vastly talented leading men on daytime to bid adieu to the show.I too hope AMC realizes the loss it just suffered. Thorsten Kaye and Alicia Minshew brought an indescribable je ne sais quois and plain old chemistry to AMC that I had never seen in all the thirty years I have been watching.Thank you Thorsten Kaye for sharing your talents with us.Adieu, and bonne chance et etre sain! As for AMC....Goodbye. It no longer is worth watching!

Rant away if you have to, cararn. I certainly understand. When I think that Zendall are over, but JR and Marissa, and Frankie and Randi, will live to tell more story, it crushes me. But for now, this is what we've got. The goodbye was so moving and poignant. I've rewatched it now several times and I still cry like a crazy woman each time. I'm glad that AMC did justice to TK and the fans, but it should not have come to this. I agree with you all the way. I hope AMC and ABC will figure things out by next summer and work out a deal with TK. This couple is far too important, too memorable and too great not to at least try.

Thorsten Kaye breathed life into one of the most fascinating characters in soap history and for four years Zach Slater, portrayed by one of the most talented and charismatic actors today, graced our TV screens on the canvas of All My Children. Today Zach Slater turned out the lights of the home he built for his sons and wife Kendall and Thorsten Kaye bid a poignant "good bye" to a very saddened audience of which I was a part.

Thorsten Kaye is a tremendous loss to AMC. His amazing talent and chemistry with Alicia Minshew gave AMC one of the most successful pairings in the last decade. Despite terrible writing, they were able to weave magic out of poorly written scripts and plot driven out of character stories. When the lights went out in Casa Slater, so did any hope that I had for AMC in their new home in California. Without Thorsten Kaye as Zach Slater and Alicia Minshew as Kendall, AMC has lost it

When Zach turned out the lights and said "Goodbye," we just knew he was saying goodbye to us, his loyal fans, as well as to the role he made his own. My heart leapt to my throat at that scene. As much as we will all miss Thorsten and as big a void that he will leave on AMC, it is pointless for us to hope that TPTB could "entice" him to return. We can't forget that his reason for leaving was that his family is in NYC and Susan's career is still in NYC with OLTL. Short of AMC "enticing" Susan to leave her show and become a part of the AMC cast, I can't see any way for Thorsten to remain with AMC. If his was a subordinate character whose scenes could be filmed in bulk so that he need only visit the other coast occasionally, he might make the commute. But, Zach is a major character, and if he were to continue to be written in, it would take a much larger commitment on Thorsten's part to leave his family for long periods of filming. He is simply not willing to be a part-time family man, and that's the way it should be. I can't think of any other cast member who would be missed more than Thorsten, but we have to respect the man's integrity and his decision to put family first. (Ouch, that really hurt to say that when I so badly want to see his face when I tune in!) We'll just have to look forward to his next project, and I doubt we'll have a long wait. He's too big a talent to go wanting for long. Our best to you, Mr. Kaye, and we look forward to seeing you in your next role.

No offense, but I don't think it's POINTLESS to hope that TPTB will entice Thorsten to return. Yes of course, Thorsten has said he will not re-locate because of his family and his children and believe me, I respect that as much as anyone. If he wants to remain on the east coast because he feels this will be best for his family, good for him. He has his family values in the right place.

But that does not mean that perhaps a schedule could be worked out and/or a situation could be created that would work for everyone.

My issues are not because of any inability of my part to respect TK and his wishes..or his integrity.My issues are with ABC and Brian Frons. Even Carolyn HInsey of SOD/SOW had the same issues...and has commented in print more than once. She was not critical of TK's decision but of ABC's "offer" to keep him.

I hope they do everything possible to get this man his job back and give him the respect he deserves because his presence is vital to AMC. And if he still says NO, well then fine. But until then, I will continue to hope that we have not seen the last of Zach Slater as portrayed by the one of a kind Thorsten Kaye.

Kathy, I didn't realize I was insulting you, that certainly wasn't my intent. I am merely being practical. If, as has been stated in print, ABC is moving AMC to LA because it's more fiscally beneficial, I couldn't imagine them going to the extra expense of finding an alternative to keep Thorsten on canvas, and if he's determined to remain in NYC, then I'm just not intelligent enough to figure out how this could be accomplished. Nobody would be happier than I to see him remain in the cast and I hope you're right.

I am not sure where you thought I believed you were insulting me.... I never thought that you were. I am not sure it's appropriate to tell anyone that what they are doing is pointless or that they are not respecting TK's dedication to his family..but i never took it as a personal insult to me or anyone.I get you were just stating your opinion but I just have another opinion than you do and was voicing it. I am respectfully disagreeing with your comments...Businesses - successful businesses... juggle around finanaces ALL the time - they determine what's needed and what's not and conclude that there are some things that are worth spending money for and some things that are not. And if AMC has moved to LA to save money, perhaps there will be more money to spend. In addition, IMO there is a lot of untalented dead wood at AMC at the moment. YOu want to save money? I think a few less characters on the canvas would help not only with money - but with the show in general.That said, I would be very surprised if money was the total issue here and so for me, if there is any chance that TK would go back to AMC under the RIGHT circumstances, I just want to make sure that TPTB know that it's something important to so many. And so, I don't think it's pointless at all.

I agree with Kathy. Let's let Thorsten Kaye be the judge of whether it's pointless or not. In the meantime, if you don't ask, you don't get, and IMO, ABC needs to ask/beg/plead/approach Mr. Kaye, with new terms for a new arrangement, to show up on AMC next year. I'll respect any decision Mr. Kaye makes, but his loss to AMC is so huge, I'm not sure ABC realized it at the time the final list came out of actors who'll show up on AMC when it moves to California. I know I didn't fully realize the loss until yesterday when it hit me like a ton of bricks, or closer to two tons. Maybe ABC needs a similar wakeup call.If it is a matter of the right terms being made to a very talented, very popular leading man, I'd either rip my hair out or burst into laughter if Y&R, B&B or DOOL (all California-based soaps) made Mr. Kaye the kind of offer that might make him commute to California. I'd much rather ABC and AMC did that and brought him back as Zach. TK was clearly so upset during yesterday's goodbye show, although AM tried her best to keep things light and hopeful. I hope that shows that AMC and Zach (and Zendall) mean alot to him that under the right circumstances, he'd consider reprising his role on the show. My fingers and toes are crossed.

I agree Kathy and Gator. I respect Mr. Kaye for the decision he made based on the needs of his family. He is to be commended for it. But if that was not the entire reason, and ABC did not make it worth his while to commute, then they need to reconsider. It is their loss and will continue to be their loss when the entire show suffers because of their decision.I watched AMC for many years and all these years AMC never had a leading man. Oh yes, we had Tad, Jackson, Phil, Jessie,Jeremy, Cliff and so on but each one was not a leading man on AMC on his own, and in his own right as Thorsten Kaye has been. I am not lessening the impact of his pairing with Alicia Minshew because as the leading couple on AMC both were leading actors in their own right.. But Thorsten Kaye is the first male to be so and their pairing was unmatched....and will be for a long time. That doesn't happen often, but like Kendall, he could carry a sl on his own. There's still a lot of story to be told about Zach Slater AMC has been and always will be the house Erica Kane built. The show never had a male counterpart of Erica,until now. How foolish to have shot themselves in the foot.I agree Kathy if AMC and ABC wants to save some money getting rid of some untalented deadwood would help. Randi, the first to go. If they insist on throwing good money after bad and keeping her, I suggest to ABC to send that money to the fans to bribe them to sit through her performances. Send Annie packing, she is vile and hateful and is not what fans want to see in a villainess. She needs to go too.I will be mourning the loss of Zach and Kendall for years to come.

I will also be mourning the loss of Zach and Kendall.

Just to throw my two cents in. I remember when they first announced that they were thinking of moving Thorsten said that he wouldn't go. He would never ever be a man that traveled 3,000 miles away from his kids. I really don't think there is an amount of money they could offer him that would make him go back. I mean it is sad for AMC but that is the way he feels. He said that before it was a even officially announced. He is dedicated to his family and Susan. Maybe he will show up on OLTL who knows. I am sorry for the fans loss but I think he is done...but I could be wrong. I am not inside his head. Just going by what I read he said.

There's always hope TK will return until the day he says there isn't any. I do believe they can get him back even if it's short term. Sounds like from what CH said that the offer they made wasn't all that great Quote: No offense, but I don't think it's POINTLESS to hope that TPTB will entice Thorsten to return. Yes of course, Thorsten has said he will not re-locate because of his family and his children and believe me, I respect that as much as anyone. If he wants to remain on the east coast because he feels this will be best for his family, good for him. He has his family values in the right place.But that does not mean that perhaps a schedule could be worked out and/or a situation could be created that would work for everyone.My issues are not because of any inability of my part to respect TK and his wishes..or his integrity.My issues are with ABC and Brian Frons. Even Carolyn HInsey of SOD/SOW had the same issues...and has commented in print more than once. She was not critical of TK's decision but of ABC's "offer" to keep him.I hope they do everything possible to get this man his job back and give him the respect he deserves because his presence is vital to AMC. And if he still says NO, well then fine. But until then, I will continue to hope that we have not seen the last of Zach Slater as portrayed by the one of a kind Thorsten Kaye. Beautifully said!

I want to co-sign all of your post....I will miss TK/AM/Zach/Kendall/Zendall...What an enormous loss for AMC......and they will feel that loss soon.....Nothing is set in stone... Never say never.....so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that someone above Frons grows a brain & does whatever needs to be done to bring back the most talented actor in daytime, primetime, anytime, Thorsten Kaye to AMC....No two actors make or break a show.... No two characters do either...No couple can, but no two actors, no two characters, no other couple in daytime come close to TK/AM/Zach/Kendall/Zendall....What bothers me is that Brian Frons has stated in print that he gave RB the sun, moon, & the stars to bring her back....We also know that he bent over backwards for CM....Good for them, but they are no TK....I respect TK putting his family first..... He's an amazingly talented man with character, grace, & integrity......Doesn't mean that I don't want TPTB to do the right thing and show TK the respect he has earned by trying to come up with a deal that will work for him, his family, and the show....AMC has very little to offer anymore...... Although, I will always love Erica, Tad, love to hate the "REAL" Adam, love & love to hate David....and love, love, love Jangie..... without Zach, Kendall, & Zendall the show is all wrong...I already miss TK/AM/Zach/Kendall/Zendall.... I hope that someday over the next few months, smarter minds at Disney/ABC prevail and lure him back...with great writing......and whatever he needs.....IF they can do it for others whose characters are useless waste, they damn well can do it for him...Pine Valley just isn't right without Zach, Kendall, Zendall, Team Slater......I say Goodbye to two of the most talented in actors in the business and I also say Goodbye to AMC....because the show sucks without them...

Ok, I liked Zendall, but I personally was not a huge fan. I did enjoy Thorsten Kaye as Zach. He was such a phenominal actor and will be missed. Alicia M. will be back, but it won't be the same since Zach is gone. IMO only, AMC sucks whether they are there or not. This past year has been so bad, that even they couldn't make it worth while watching. I know I am probably in the doghouse on this one, sorry. I used to be a huge fan of theirs, but when they had Kendall, jump to Ryan and Aiden and Zach with Reese and Liza, just did it for me. It seems like Zendall lost their flame, until they just reunited this past week. That was the Zendall we all know and loved. So I agree with everyone else and hope TPTB will do whatever they can to get TK back and get rid of the deadwood as everyone calls them. Love that. I personally think if they got rid of Ryan, Annie, Scott, Marissa, Emma, and Randi, they would definitely have enough to entice TK to come back and as someone else said, maybe offer Susan Haskell (his partner) a position as well. AMC will eventually listen to its fans when they realize they are on the verge of being cancelled next. BRING BACK TK/AM.

It's amazing how when AMC finally got around to writing 5 or so decent episodes for Zendall, where neither wanted to hurt the other or act bizarrely, so many fans responded positively to the writing. So many people who were lukewarm at best about the couple thanks to months/years of destructive writing remembered how great Zen are and can still be, and that's what I hope AMC/ABC will realize: Zen are not only phenomenally popular, but have more story to tell. It's stunning how many people are posting on various message boards that they were either never really fans, or they were but they weren't very passionate about them, or they were fans until Pratt made them non-fans, and yet, they were still moved or pleased by the last few episodes of Zendall. That's all on TK and AM and their unique ability to bring the fans back, once the writing is halfway decent. I hope ABC is taking notes and planning next steps because ending this couple now, and knowing AM is currently scheduled to return without TK, isn't very encouraging for so many of us (ex) viewers.

It's nice to see someone I recognize from 'Insider Access' now that it is gone. I realize I said once Zach and Kendall were gone I would no longer watch AMC -- I've watched some episodes because I noticed about the same time Zach turned off the lights in their home there was also talk about contacting Erica via computer so I thought maybe TPTB had used at least some of our suggestions. Anyway, I wanted to find someone who had been on IA so that we could discuss the things the writers seem to have done in light of what we wrote in our posts on that website.

The last 6 days of episodes together were magnificent, and I'm still watching the clips from those shows (and all the old Zach/Kendall/Zendall clip from the past 4.5 years) and that is all I'm watching of AMC since TK (and AM) said good bye. I hope AMC/ABC realizes the impact to the show of what they lost in the amazingly talented Thorsten Kaye and will try to get him back. I would love for Thorsten and Alicia to come back together after her maternity leave. Thorsten Kaye made Zach Slater his own and the character became so ingrained as part of Pine Valley, it is unthinkable that he is no longer part of it. Plus, together with Alicia, they formed one of the BEST couples in daytime -- they are hot, sexy, chemistry that oozes off the screen, and just fabulously talented. For me, it will always/only be Thorsten Kaye and Alicia Minshew as Zach/Kendall and Zendall!!!