The Fall storylines haven't officially began yet but they should be soon for all the characters.
Quote:I can't help but think that their big fall story already happened. TPTB did say they were kissing, we just didn't see it. TPTB said they would be dealing with family problems and their life on campus/school. Perhaps they think that by Noah going to Rome for school and Luke going offscreen to class every day is riveting drama. That is them dealing with their life on campus and the family problems have already been dealt with. So they are at school and around campus, we just aren't seeing it. Of course, we did have to see Parker and Liberty countless times at school. Do you think we'll even get to see even the Outside of Oakdale U? You are probably right about that. Besides that ridiculous kissing issue that they never owned up to, remember that TPTB had the nerve to release spoilers indicating that Luke's and Noah's relationship would "move forward" and it turned out that a double date with Lucinda and Brian was the "moving forward" that TPTB were referring to.I think what we will see this fall is Noah returning and the topic of Luke's and his sexuality and how others react to it being the center of their story YET AGAIN. I won't be surprised if the story glosses over them finally consummating their relationship. Of course it will take place mostly off screen like most of their story does and some fervent fans will swoon that it was implied that they slept together. But nothing will have changed. Luke and Noah are destined to have poor airtime and perpetual conflict surrounding how others respond to them being gay. They will not ever be treated by ATWT/TPTB as characters that just happen to be gay. That ship has sailed long ago. Luke's an Noah's poor airtime and poor character development (especially Noah) is proving this story to be little more than a modern day freakshow. ATWT should be ashamed of themselves.
Quote:Yes and I do not think they got confused about what month. The email specifically said they would have a strong on air presence in September, October, and November. Regarding the statement that was released regarding Luke and Noah having a
Quote:So to keep the Nuke fans from completely bailing out, they issued the statement through a spokesperson. And to combat the fears of virtually no Luke and Noah in September, they trotted out Van to calm the masses. TPTB are very shrewd.
That was exactly my thought when I read that interview with Van. It was so obvious TPTB knew we wouldn't believe them after they have lied to us so many times so they forced Van to do their dirty work because they knew we would actually listen to him.
But you still have to wonder if that's Van talking or just TPTB giving him a script to read to calm fans nerves. Like you said, they're very shrewd and they have proven they cannot be trusted so I'm not sure what to think.
*sigh* Why can't ATWT realize that all the controversy, all the anger, all the conspiracy theories and all the hurt would go away if they just featured the damn couple! They had the power to avoid all this drama countless times this past year but instead they chose to dig their own graves.
Quote:The Nuke fans have been played for fools by TPTB. But in a sad way, those fans have allowed themselves to be played because they are appeased by the crumbs this show gives them. I remember the excitement over the 4 second bumper featuring Luke and Noah in late July as some said it showed that the show was
I don't think fans are happy with breadcrumbs only, but they do enjoy the breadcrumbs if only for Luke and Noah(and the fact that Van and Jake bring the most to their scenes.
Who knows what TPTB meant by having a stronger presence in September, October, and November. Maybe they meant September into October and November. Maybe my pessimistic prognostication won't come true and hopefully they will be on more. I think maybe they will be on more in October. It won't be everyday, but it will be more.
However, I am still afraid that Noah will cheat on Luke when in Rome.
I don't envy ATWT the position they are in....they probably didn't count on the popularity of this couple with people from so many varied walks of life....who probably like this storyline for very, very different reasons. Some because they want personal representation from it, and still others because they are learning lessons of tolerance because of it, and still others because it's helping them come to terms with very personal life situations that are all too real and new to them. One seeming common thread though, is the passion with which they campaign for what they personally want from this story, and the passion with which they argue about what's disappointing to them. Then add to the mix, the people who just don't want to see it it all (denying they exist is a mistake), and you have all kinds of different, passionate-and-not-afraid-to-say so, people to please. And pleasing such diametrically opposite groups of people with the same programming is not an enviable task. So far every daytime show before them who has tried this, has pulled the plug and given up, but Luke and Noah are still on.
I agree LuthersCorners. I don't think TPTB at ATWT expected Noah and Luke to be popular. I have heard that Noah was just supposed to be a summer fling and then take off for Northwestern. If that's true, something must have changed.I also heard that Kevin is coming back. I wonder if that's true. There are so many possibilities. Kevin can come back the same homophobe he always was and still cause lots of trouble for Luke and Noah. I think that would be a more interesting dynamic than Col Homophobe. On the other hand, he could be out of the closet and back for Luke. Or he could make a play for Noah.
Quote:I also heard that Kevin is coming back. I wonder if that's true. It's true. Karl Girolamo told WeLoveSoaps this:"I am happy to be working with everyone again. I wont be around for too long but my stuff should start airing the 13th [of October]. It's a great storyline so it should be fun."
Also on Oct 13, Java Jeff returns as well. I'm hoping after Luke gets all super-gay on campus with Reg, Noah seeks comfort from Jeff.
I suspect Kevin will be the same lovable homophobe he was when we last saw him.
I had to edit this post. Please watch the language. Just because Kevin uses homophobic slurs doesn't mean we have to repeat them here on the forum.
Jeff probably had just one or two lines. I don't think his role will be important in the story.
Jeff would only have to have 2 lines to make the s/l "juicy".Jeff: Hey Noah, what's wrong?Noah: Luke's going all gay activist on campus with Reg and he doesn't think I'm gay enough.Jeff: I bet you're gay enough for me.Noah:
Ok, Noah & Luke fans, what is your take on the news about gay couples on other soaps?If you haven't heard, there is going to be a gay relationship story on General Hospital: Night Shift (featuring Chad Allen and Adam Grimes), and now All My Children is getting back into the gay storyline business by bringing back Bianca (Eden Riegel), and is bringing with her a girlfriend, Reese (Tamara Braun). Overall, I think this is great news - the more diversity, the better!But for those, like people reading this thread, that are big Luke & Noah fans, will this be good for US? Will ATWT view this as "competition?" If these other shows aren't afraid to feature their gay couples like ATWT apparently appears to be, will this cause ATWT to react and feature Noah and Luke more than 5 minutes per week (that is, when Jake's not on a vacation )? If these other couples have a relationship that goes beyond first base, will this cause Luke & Noah ever get to go beyond first base? What is everyone's opinion on this? Will this at all effect the way ATWT has and will be handling this storyline? If so, how? If not, why?To be honest, I'm not surprised we got to this point. In an article in a magazine that was published during the (alleged ) kissing ban, one executive said that there was "clearly a demand" to see this type of story (I wish ATWT agreed MORE with this statement:() and that he/she thought that another network should pen its own gay love story, but unlike ATWT, would do it properly. By that, the executive was meaning that they wouldn't be shy at all about featuring a gay couple kissing. Here is a great discussion, in my opinion, about this turn of events on other soaps. So, like I said earlier, what do you people think? Obviously, it's a good thing overall, but does it mean anything at all for Luke & Noah fans? I highly await your opinions.
NoahFan,At first, I thought this might be good news for Nuke fans...having these gay relationships on other soaps. My first reaction was that maybe the other shows will finally force ATWT to move Nuke's relationship forward, actually feature them, give them stories, etc. But then, sadly, I had to keep reminding myself that this is ATWT. This is a show that's treated Luke like like a guest star for nearly 2 years now. This is a show that's showcased little Parker much more than Luke as evidenced by him dominating Luke in screen time and episode totals for the past year and half. Noah or no Noah, Luke's popularity just seems to be lost on TPTB. I've waited over a year now for ATWT to capitalize on Nuke's huge popularity...yet they have refused to do so at every turn. They had this goldmine yet they still thought that Luke and Noah should only be featured a couple times a month. If TPTB don't care about the characters then they don't care about the characters. A little competition from other shows won't change the way they treat them. If I'm wrong, I'll gladly eat my own words. I'll even write an "I was wrong," poem. But until TPTB prove to me that they can be trusted and actually do something with this couple, I'll remain skeptical.
I think it has the potential to be a good thing, for the entire soap industry. News and rumors of other programs trying to follow suit will raise competition, and raise credence, for all shows involved....and just as important, it has the potential to do more than just shuffle the current daytime audience from one show to the next. It stands a good chance of drawing new viewers to daytime who currently don't watch any show at all, and it stands a chance to get current viewers to add to their viewing time by checking out another show that's new to them....which would increase the numbers for the whole industry, raise the bar for ad rates, and help everyone across the board. And then comes more competiton to be "the best", etc. It has the potential to be good for the struggling daytime airwaves, and through competition, cause some informative and entertaining programming. Let's all hope some of this happens.
Quote:But then, sadly, I had to keep reminding myself that this is ATWT. This is a show that's treated Luke like like a guest star for nearly 2 years now. This is a show that's showcased little Parker much more than Luke as evidenced by him dominating Luke in screen time and episode totals for the past year and half. Noah or no Noah, Luke's popularity just seems to be lost on TPTB. I've waited over a year now for ATWT to capitalize on Nuke's huge popularity...yet they have refused to do so at every turn. They had this goldmine yet they still thought that Luke and Noah should only be featured a couple times a month. If TPTB don't care about the characters then they don't care about the characters. A little competition from other shows won't change the way they treat them. Sadly Andy, you're right, nothing will change. With the chance for the soap press to ask the question of where in the heck are Luke and Noah during August and September, they didn't. And now, it is just forgotten while folks talk about s/l bubbles and anxiously await that "juicy" storyline. It appears that TPTB have enough apologists on this and other boards to make the Nuke fans actually think this lack of airtime and being treated unfairly is all in their head. And sadly, there are Nuke fans who choose to forgot the horrible treatment of Luke and Noah in the last few months and give TPTB and the soap press a pass.It is a waste of time to actually expect anything other than spin and double-talk from TPTB and the soap press represented here.
Maybe that is why ATWT is on the bottom of the polls. Get with the program ATWT, if you ever want to be on top take some risk, you might even a daytime award or two.Again, sarcasm there
I was wondering if any of you guys think that AMC bringing back Bianca and her new girlfriend could benefit Luke and Noah, or does the fact that they are male make them less socially acceptable?
Isn't Noah coming back next week? I thought he was. I was really looking forward to it. Is there anything to look forward to? If so, there is quite a lack of news about this and it doesn't look like Luke and Noah have a lot of airtime next week. When exactly is their storyline supposed to start and when are we going to see more of them? It looks like Parker and Liberty storyline is about to pick back up again and we will probably see them 5 days a week next week.
Yes, Noah returns next week (Wednesday). I've read somewhere that SOD wrote about that they will kiss on that day (with a picture of that kiss). And the ATWT newsletter said this reunion was something you don't want to miss, so hopefully it will be a great reunion episode.
But I think their story will really start when Kevin returns on Oct 13.
Yes, there was a kiss of Luke and Noah kissing in SOD, the first time I've seen that in any mag. It looks really sweet. And.... there's a spoiler in SOW about Noah having made a decision about he and Luke's future.... or words to that effect.Mala, you wouldn't want to give us any hints would you?
No hinting here, AnthonyL! All I can say is what I've said before. The boys do have a storyline coming up, will continue to share scenes, etc.
Well as I've told a friend of mine I have a feeling that the decision that Noah makes will probably make us melt or something. I just hope that what ever causes their relationship to be tested that they come out of the storm a little bit stronger . Now I've just gotta figure out what mistakes that Luke makes....hmmm...lol.
I too, saw the little piece that said Luke would be making some mistakes...and I am glad because it's always been Noah who's seen making the mistakes with Luke, and maybe that's why some viewers are so critical of Noah. Having Luke mess up this time will be something they really haven't done with the couple before and that's a good thing.
I don't think that that's it tho I do agree with most of what your saying. Part of it is how to write the story properly and to do it justice. Remember this is one of the few (if only REALISTIC gay love stories, besides Bianca on AMC. And we see how well that went over. I think TPTB want to get it right especially with everyone watching SOOO closely from GLAAD on.....I have heard that they will get more airtime and share a big ol smooch in the near future. I really think that no one was planning on them being so popular. I like them too I think it's a good solid relationship. Hey you never kno we may be on the way to seeing our 1st soon to be gay wedding. Go Luke and Noah
Hopefully there new story is a good one, from what little I know, it at least sounds pontentially good. Glad Noah is back this Wednesday.
Found this somewhere else and I thought it was interesting. The last time Luke and Noah had a lot of airtime was in February and March. Weren't the writers on strike then? So wasn't this the scab material taking over? 2007 January (21 ep.). Luke: 3. Airtime: 00:11:34 (1%).2007 February (20 ep.). Luke: 5. Airtime: 00:24:56 (3%).2007 March (20 ep.). Luke: 2. Airtime: 00:28:20 (4%).2007 April (20 ep.). Luke: 7. Airtime: 00:30:37 (4%).2007 May (23 ep.). Luke: 4. Kevin: 1. Airtime: 00:19:14 (2%).2007 June (21 ep.). Luke: 4. Noah: 9. Airtime: 00:53:21 (7%).2007 July (22 ep.). Luke: 8. Noah: 7. Airtime: 01:20:30 (10%).2007 August (23 ep.). Luke: 11. Noah: 11. Airtime: 01:38:38 (11%).2007 September (18 ep.). Luke: 8. Noah: 8. Airtime: 01:51:34 (16%).2007 October (23 ep.). Luke: 11. Noah: 10. Airtime: 03:03:04 (21%).2007 November (20 ep.). Luke: 7. Noah: 7. Airtime: 01:07:31 (9%).2007 December (19 ep.). Luke: 4. Noah: 4. Airtime: 00:39:04 (5%).2008 January (22 ep.). Luke: 4. Noah: 3. Airtime: 00:36:41 (4%).2008 February (21 ep.). Luke: 10. Noah: 8. Airtime: 01:13:10 (9%).2008 March (19 ep.). Luke: 7. Noah: 7. Airtime: 01:26:58 (12%).2008 April (22 ep.). Luke: 7. Noah: 7. Airtime: 01:06:21 (8%).2008 May (22 ep.). Luke: 7. Noah: 6. Airtime: 01:06:14 (8%).2008 June (21 ep.). Luke: 7. Noah: 7. Airtime: 01:07:41 (8%).2008 July (23 ep.). Luke: 8. Noah: 6. Airtime: 01:17:16 (9%).2008 August (21 ep.). Luke: 5. Noah: 3. Airtime: 00:33:47 (4%).2008 September (20 ep.). Luke: 4. Noah: 1. Airtime: 00:18:17 (2%).
Wow, PGP will never cease to amaze me!
According to a journalist on a Canadian / TV soap site, OUT magazine approached PGP/Telenext Media and asked permission to feature Van Hansis and Jake Silbermann in one of their special magazine features - as both actors that have succeeded in positive portrayels of gay characters on TV.
PGP turned down the offer!!! Wow, if PGP can't even be proud enough to feature this couple in a gay magazine, is it any wonder why they're never on your tv sets? And before anyone says the author of this might be making it up, this information came from the OUT editor!
I really wish PGP/Telenext would get out of the soap business before this show goes off the air. At least someone else might lift a finger to save it.
Wow really? I can't see why an interview would be so bad. Luke and Noah are probably their worst nightmare. PGP is trying to remain neutral on gay issues, which is why they don't feature Luke and Noah at all. At least that is what the AFA wants anyway. Now comes the news of NuCraig. I'm sure this will push down Luke and Noah's airtime even more. They'll be on 30 seconds an episode once a month?
Reading the CBS recap for Monday's episode, it looks like Luke and Noah are, for once, going to be featured in a big chunk of the episode and actually interact with other characters! And for the first time in over 3 months, Noah won't vanish after the second commercial break. What a concept! If only this was the norm on the show. I hope it doesn't mean another 13 Nukeless episodes that follow just because they got a little of the spotlight for once.
I just watched the deleted bench scene. What a sweet sweet scene. That scene, even though it was only a minute long, would have made Luke/Noah's reunion episode complete (even without sex). For a couple that has practically disappeared, I can't understand why that scene would have been cut. It did add something to their story. It told us Noah returned early from Italy because he missed Luke. It told us that Noah has no problem showing affection with Luke IN PUBLIC (which would dismiss those who keep contending Noah wants to hide his relationship and go back in the closet). And more importantly, it was a good time for Noah to tell Luke that he needs to stay out of his parents marriage because otherwise he will drive himself crazy .I suspect someone at ATWT realized they really messed up by promoting a BIG REUNION with a photo and then never showing that scene. I'll call the comment line tomorrow and thank them for adding the scene but asking them why it was cut in the first place. And for those silly Nuke fans and their conspiracy theory about a scene being cut - You guys rock. Let others laugh at you, you've been right more often than not no matter what lame excuses and insults the ATWT apologists throw at you. Keep up the pressure.
I'm pissed that their bench scene was deleted. I think the fact that it was filmed, cut and then posted online proves that there is a behind the scenes battle at ATWT/TeleNext over this story line.I'm very sad to see that the beginning of their big new storyline only has them on once this week. Once again Luke and Noah and their fans are treated like dirt by TPTB.
Here's a great write-up about the deleted bench scene by Sara Bibel. It's good to see someone in the soap press complimenting the Nuke fans rather than mocking them.ATWT Listens To Its Fans
For those who have been asking these questions for months, dying for someone to ask them to TPTB, it appears that someone has finally asked at least some of them. Just don't be surprised if you're not all too happy with some of the answers. Still, it's an interesting read, somewhat, I suppose. Afterelton interview with ATWT's headwriter, Jean Passanante.
Once again, an interview that reveals absolutely nothing about Luke and Noah's story. Why bother with these interviews if the interviewer refuses to challange the answers?
The missed opportunity for this interview was when JP admitted that Luke and Noah were a very popular couple and then the interviewer didn't follow up with "If that's the case, why did they disappear during the summer?" Why didn't the interviewer mentioned all the Nuke fans and new viewers they've lost because of the way they treated Luke and Noah?
And her answer to why Luke and Noah haven't had sex yet was insulting especially with the reference to Liberty and Parker. If the interviewer was going to mention the lack of sex, why didn't he mention that all the guys did was talk about sex in JULY and then when they returned in August, it was never mentioned again (and hasn't been since). Why the sudden U-turn? I sometimes wonder if these interviewers even watch the show.
Maybe JP isn't the villan in this story but SOMEONE is. I keep waiting for the day we find out who has surpressed this story. These interviews are fluff pieces until someone steps up and asks the hard questions.
You make some valid observations, Sarah!The part of the interview that really got me is when she said one reason for the lack of progress to Luke & Noah's relationship is that the couple "hasn't really been featured." Isn't she the headwriter and responsible for NOT featuring them? She admits the couple is "very popular" but doesn't feature them? Why can't someone from the show or Telenext come out and be honest? Why must we always get these PC / "safe" answers? Why do these people sound like politicians? If these are the types of answers people are going to give (that being non-answers), why do they do interviews?I just don't get it.
Jean Passanante's non-answers to all the questions didn't surprise me in the least. But naturally, a few things rubbed me the wrong way. 1. She mentions more than once that Luke and Noah are very popular and that they're happy they're so popular. Well, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!! If you're so happy they're popular than don't backburn them like you always do. Don't go a week between Nuke episodes. Feature the damn couple on this show! 2. I was completely floored over her response to the kissing ban. She actually said that more interest was generated by them not kissing for all that time and it probably brought in more viewers. Please. The entire kissing ban was completely offensive. To still say it got people to watch like it was a soap ploy just sounds insulting. 3. I have to laugh (and cry) over the suggestion of writing in and making a fuss just to get Luke and Noah to consumate their relationship. The writers should have done that with Nuke ON THEIR OWN long ago. You can only do so much campaigning (for kisses, screen time and character interaction) before it gets too draining! The writers and producers on this show need to do their job and let us relax and watch. They know what we want yet they refuse to feature it. Why is that?
Andy, I don't blame JP as much as the interviewer. I have my doubts whether he even watches the show because there were many chances to challenge JP's response and he didn't. What a waste of an opportunity.As for the sex thing, that ship has sailed. What would be the point of them having sex now if after all they've been through, they haven't had it yet. And even worse, THEY'VE STOPPED TALKING ABOUT IT. They should have had sex after Luke's paralysis, they didn't. They should have had sex after the greencard bride from hell, they didn't. They should have had sex after the fallout from Colonel Mayer's death and Noah almost joining the Army. They didn't. They should have had sex after Noah returned from Rome. They didn't. I can't imagine an immediate need for them to have sex now. It would be pretty lame if the following occurred:Luke: Noah, I just won an election. Let's have sex.Noah: I'm jealous of Kevin. Let's have sex.TPTB ruined this couple and no amount of airtime can ever repair that damage.
One possible explanation is that sometimes, there are set guidelines for an interviewer to adhere to in order to score an interview in the first place - questions not to ask, areas not to get into, etc. - obviously I do not know if that's the case here or not, but it is a possiblity. Keep in mind that it was a phone interview as opposed to an in-person interview, and all the interviewee has to do in that case, is simply hang up the phone, and interview over - reporter has nothing to publish. I can tell you that a good interviewer knows going in, where to take the interview and where not to, it's one of the skills required to be good at the job - and such sets of intuition are unique to the situation and to the individual being interviewed...in other words, the reporter has to do their homework, and know the person they are interviewing before they start, otherwise the interview will most definitely not happen if a line is crossed. Free reign to ask any question in such cases can not be assumed, and is possibly rare. Who knows really, but any such thing is a possible reason for certain things not being asked. I can also say this - any reporter who assumes they have free reign to take an interview wherever they want, without regard to the wishes of their subject, isn't going to score many interviews after the first one goes bad, and as such may not last long in the business.
AE has proven in the past that they are mostly a mouthpiece for TPTB at ATWT so the interview was not all that surprising. It was AE that reported in August thru a show rep that Luke and Noah would have a "strong presence in September, October and November". Well, that didn't happen and the interviewer didn't even bring it up. AE has little credibility for most Nuke fans because like most others in the soap press, they NEVER challenge TPTB. So what if AE lost their contact with TPTB because they asked JP or Chris Goutman a tough question and made them look foolish. I suspect AE would gain back some of their credibility that has been sorely missing since they first started following the Luke and Noah story last year.
Quote: It was AE that reported in August thru a show rep that Luke and Noah would have a "strong presence in September, October and November". Well, that didn't happen and the interviewer didn't even bring it up.
With all due respect it isn't November yet, so we don't know that part for sure.
AfterElton actually isn't the soap press and they have plenty of credibility on their own in their particular field. They're a niche Web site with a huge Internet base and, therefore, have nothing to lose or gain by asking whatever it is they want of ATWT's TPTB.
Again, just because the questions being asked and answered aren't to some people's tastes doesn't mean they aren't valid and doesn't mean people aren't sincere.
Quote:Quote: It was AE that reported in August thru a show rep that Luke and Noah would have a "strong presence in September, October and November". Well, that didn't happen and the interviewer didn't even bring it up. With all due respect it isn't November yet, so we don't know that part for sure. It's now October 15th, so we're halfway through this 3 month stretch, and the guys have had ONE solid episode. Even a half lie is still a lie, isn't it? I don't understand why a show like this lies to fans. I've never seen prime time shows do this. And people wonder why daytime is a dying breed...if they respected their audience a bit more, it might not be. Well, it still might be, but at least I would feel like, as a viewer of the show, I was respected and appreciated, something I rarely feel when watching this show.
This is a rare time where I'm going to disagree with you, Sarah. AfterElton has always been quick to point out when TPTB (of any show they cover) are giving BS responses. They have NOT always shied away from asking the questions we want to ask ourselves. They just know in advance that the person being interviewed is going to ramble on and never really answer the question...something ATWT has been guilty of many, many times in regards to Luke and Noah. I was the one who begged Michael Jensen at AfterElton to interview one of the higher ups at ATWT about Nuke in late August. He eventually agreed to do it in October though, at the time, he told me AfterElton would rather (in his own words) cover more "relevant" shows. Nuke isn't very important to them anymore. The whole no stories/no sex/no screen time issue has made them more of a running joke, sadly. I myself never expected to get any real answers out of TPTB through an interview. I just wanted them to see, through our questions, how angry we as viewers were over how they have mishandled the Nuke storyline. And maybe through that they coud, you know, actually start to FEATURE them.
Point taken Andy. However, they have let TPTB mistruths from previous interviews stand without any followup. Again, I fault the interviewer for not following up on JP's responses in the most recent interview.
At one time, AE was a strong advocate for Luke and Noah. Their tone changed DRAMATICALLY and now that site mostly mocks Luke and Noah encouraged most times by their editors. At one time, that site had over 100 responses on a Nuke day, now they are lucky to get 30, mostly mocking in tone.
In no way do I think AE is an advocate of the Luke and Noah story. There were once upon a time but not anymore. Nuke fans need to find a better ally than AE.
Come on People, We all know the answer to this. It is because it's a gay couple and not a straight couple. Let's face it, If Liberty and Parker can have sex at the age of 15/16 years old then it all comes down to NUKE being a gay couple. If they were a straight couple we all know they would have jumped each other bones many times and have countless of airtimes. The only other relationship that probably would have been held off would have been an interracial couple back in the day. Oh wait, that did happen. They did it on Days (The characters names were David and Simone. Can't be sure though) . They probably did it on ATWT too at on point. Well maybe one day TPTB might get a clue.
ATWT may have actually been first here, with Duncan (Michael Swan) and Jessica (Tamara Tunie), Bonnie's parents. Jessica's famiy had real problems on screen with the relationship, as did many viewers, but they told the story slow and steady anyway in spite of the protests from the audience, and eventually the show successfully broke the ground.
Quote:Quote: It was AE that reported in August thru a show rep that Luke and Noah would have a "strong presence in September, October and November". Well, that didn't happen and the interviewer didn't even bring it up.
With all due respect it isn't November yet, so we don't know that part for sure.
September - 20 episodes/Luke AND Noah appeared ONCE
October - 13 episodes (thru Friday)/Luke and Noah appeared THREE times
Of 33 episodes in Sept/Oct, Luke and Noah have appeared FOUR times or 12% of the time. I hope fans aren't turned off by Luke and Noah DOMINATING their screens for the past 7 weeks.
Yet another lie debunked. Instead of a kiss clock or consummation clock, AE should have a PINNOCHIO clock for TPTB at ATWT.
Quote:Instead of a kiss clock or consummation clock, AE should have a PINNOCHIO clock for TPTB at ATWT. LOL Sarah. You crack me up sometimes. But you're right. As I might have stated earlier, I've never seen any other tv show consistently make statements that angered fans of the show like ATWT does. If you can't say what you really want to say, wouldn't it be best not do interviews? Or would that be worse then doing interviews in which your answers aren't 100% honest?
I just read Van's interview and the Sweeps Previews.Let me get this straight. Luke has survived 2 murder attempts, paralysis, his parents being arrested for murder, gay bashing, and a greencard marriage from hell yet a SCHOOL ELECTION is going to cause him to self destruct and wreck his love life and cause complications with his family? And a SCHOOL ELECTION is going to cause Luke to finally grow up? And when it's all said and done, the fallout from a SCHOOL ELECTION might possibly lead to Luke and Noah being intimate? Are we sure this isn't an upcoming s/l for Liberty and Parker?I know Nuke fans are excited by the potential increased airtime for this "juicy" s/l but this s/l will probably make the Ameera debacle look like Shakespeare.But hang in there Nuke fans. Jean P says to "have faith" and this recent down time in Nuke appearances has been a lull from their "front and center story". Huh? Did I sleep through that front and center story? Time to start the PINNOCHIO clock again.
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