I can only hope ATWT learns from AMC having the courage to air the love scene. I have only been following a little, but haven't the couple on their been dating for awhile? Still I do not understand the hesitation when Luke and Noah have already gone half there. All they would have had to do is have Luke and Noah kissing and then lying in bed together. They would just have to go a little farther than the day they were about to but the ICE agent interrupted them.
I think TPTB told writers to make them stop talking about it until they are ready to go there, but who knows what that will be. I wish they weren't being so cowardly about the whole situation. It's just sad. But we still get 15 yr old cousins going at it and boring couples nobody cares about.
I have been hearing rumblings that Luke and Noah may be excluded from Thanksgiving and Christmas. Since Noah was conveniently out of town for Aaron's wedding and Luke was left out of the prayer circle when Ethan went missing, I wonder if the show is excluding Luke and Noah as a couple from religous themed events for some reason. Now I am hearing that Noah won't be a part of Thanksgiving episodes. That is a reason why they would not be together for Thanksgiving and Christmas, which means no kiss under the misltetoe again. I could be and hope I am wrong about this.
I just love your wording, just love it. Wasn't the Christmas episode from last year centered around Luke and Noah, whether we saw a kiss or not? At least that's what I recall. And both Luke and Noah were at Thanksgiving as well and they also got a lot of attention then as Luke confronted Col Mayer and stood for the first time. I don't think there is a conspiracy to keep the gays away from religious holidays. So I don't know where you are 'hearing' these 'rumblings', but I don't think there's any truth to it, especially since we already know Luke will be around for Thanksgiving. As for Noah, when you dump your boyfriend a few weeks before the holiday, you deserve to have turkey dinner alone.
This is untrue. There are legitimate, publicly available spoiler pictures of the Snyder Thanksgiving 2008 on an official website that prove otherwise. I would rather not post a link on this board to the pictures, because I don't want to cause any problems for SOD/SOW, but if you search the internet you can find the official website that has the pictures. Mala - if I don't need to even refer to other websites like this here on this board, please let me know not to do so again....don't want to do anything to cause an issue for you guys ! Thanks. And Mandeemarshe, hope this helps you feel more at ease.
Referring to other Web sites is fine, LuthersCorners. We just don't allow hotlinking or direct linking to images and magazine scans.
I don't know about Christmas, because it's so far in advance, but Luke and Noah (even though they're not together) will definitely be around this month. Plus, the whole "religious themed" exclusion is a bit of a stretch, mandeemarshe. I mean, they WERE part of a nondenominational spiritual wedding ceremony earlier this year and were also featured in last year's Christmas episode.
As for the Bianca and Reese sex vs. Nuke sex thing, it's apples and oranges. Bianca has been out for years, she's already had kissing scenes and the intimation of sexual relations with her girlfriends. Her and Reese having sex is nothing new. They are also fully grown, professional adults in a committed relationship and have children. Regardless of whether or not they've only been on the show a month, they've been together for at least over a year. Plus, there's that annoying old chestnut of lesbianism being slightly more socially acceptable.
Yes, it's silly that Noah and Luke didn't have sex while they were in a happy period, but "Bianca and Reese are doing it!" doesn't really have a bearing on that. It's a different scenario, different relationship, etc.
Quote:I don't know about Christmas, because it's so far in advance, but Luke and Noah (even though they're not together) will definitely be around this month.Do you mean November or December when you say this, Mala?Also, the pictures make it look like they are together, or at least on pretty good terms, by next week. Could the dreadful break-up be over already?
I said "this month," Richard, meaning what we've been watching, where they're clearly still fighting. Nothing more and nothing less!
Can't blame a fan for trying!
Hee. No, I can't! I actually love it, because it keeps me on my toes about spoilers!
Quote:Plus, the whole "religious themed" exclusion is a bit of a stretch, mandeemarshe. I mean, they WERE part of a nondenominational spiritual wedding ceremony earlier this year and were also featured in last year's Christmas episode.
I actually had to think about what wedding you were talking about because I couldn't recall Luke and Noah attending anybody's wedding.... until I realized Noah married Ameera earlier this year. Wow, that seems like so long ago now. I wish Ameera were still around. It's a shame the character didn't work out.
I know, it does seem like forever ago, doesn't it? Plus, I forgot that Luke was at Aaron and Alison's wedding.
Quote:I know, it does seem like forever ago, doesn't it? Plus, I forgot that Luke was at Aaron and Alison's wedding. You probably forgot about him being at the wedding because he had 2 lines in the entire episode. The writers didn't even bother to give Luke and Aaron any dialogue when Luke was pinning the flower on Aaron's jacket. That was a very rare yet appropriate moment for these brothers to have a heartfelt conversation and we got nothing. It's not like they interact the rest of the year either.
Chiming in late on the Rianca thing.
In my humble opinion, no. Them sleeping together isn't going to have any effect on what happens with Luke and Noah finally hitting the sheets. TPTB are who they are. These are the same people that have mishandled the storyline time and again and refused to capitalize on Nuke's popularity. I don't have any faith that Rianca will force them to finally move the guys relationship forward.
It's going to remain the HUGE elephant in the room.
About Rianca-I hear TPTB at AMC have decided that Reece is not really gay. I hope they do not do this with Luke and Noah. Where are Luke and Noah? Did TPTB decide that sex was too much for the audience to handle?
Perhaps. Or perhaps their big storyline, wait, make that Luke and Brian's big storyline, with occasional guest appearances by Noah, is all TPTB ever wanted to tell for now.
The guys are definitely on the backburner, and I guess that they won't be on much or have a storyline for months. But fans got a "sex scene," so they should be happy, right?
Ummm. We know about TWO upcoming storylines that involve Luke and Noah.
Yeah, aren't they supposed to be in the middle of a big murder mystery (if I recall, correctly)? I wonder who's gonna get murdered?! I'm SO glad it's not Brian...I want him back!
Yes, I have heard about them too, but I don't believe it until I see it.In the meantime, it looks like Noah will be gone for about a month. Or maybe he will make one appearance soon, but either way, that's definitely backburner. Same with Luke.
Am I the only one who thought Luke's appearance made no sense? I mean, it's good to see him and all. I just wish they would have Luke focus on getting his life back on track, with Noah and otherwise. It doesn't make sense for him to just be reading a book and lounging around. I did think it made sense for him to help Ali. I like them as friends. At the same time, I like Luke and Jade too. Noahfan, it looks like you were right about it being a month before Noah makes another appearance. I don't think his next appearance is until Feb 10 or 11. I just don't get why TPTB walk on eggshells when it comes to writing for these two.
If you go over to PGP CS site and look at the new pictures posted for Feb. 11 show you can see Lukes hair is blond but in the 1-28 show he has lost his color I think Luke was just a drop in if you see he's only with Jade then Ali with no story.
If he's just a drop in, why couldn't they have dropped in Noah as well? God forbid Luke and Noah get any airtime.
Quote: God forbid Luke and Noah get any airtime. We shouldn't really single out ATWT. Don't all soaps backburn one of their most popular and "buzz" worthy couples non-stop, just like ATWT does with Nuke? It seems like the thing all shows should do with falling ratings and money being tight, right?
Yeah that makes sense to me. Ignore one of your most popular couples. Aren't both GL and ATWT P&G soaps. GL has a female same sex relationship and they are always on. Can you say double standard?
I think that what you said demonstrates that a fear that some fans had, the fear being that P&G was telling ATWT to not air Luke & Noah that much at in fear of running off viewers, is a fear that doesn't make sense in light of what's going on with GL.This shows what many others have said all along, that being that TPTB write for their favorites non-stop, regardless of fan input. In my opinion, that's a really bad way to run a show.
TPTB are always going to write for their favorites, I don't have a doubt about that. And I accepted long ago that Luke and Noah will never be one of their favorite couples to write for despite their HUGE popularity. But something I will NEVER be able to accept is this sorry excuse for screen time they get. Yes, the boys are currently in between stories so there's bound to be a little dropoff from the table scraps we get during a story. And yes, the boys finally had sex...something a straight couple would have done over a year ago on this show. But there is absolutely NO EXCUSE for having Noah disapper for a whole month while Luke shows up just once or twice. The boys are in the honeymoon phase of their relationship where they can FINALLY be happy together. But as usual on this show, we get months and months and months of misery with just a 5 minute payoff followed by them vanishing from our TV screens. Is it really impossible to give them just one episode in an entire week?When Luke told Alison on Wednesday, "Look at me and Noah now, we couldn't be happier!" I screamed at the TV..."I want to look at you now but you're never on!!!!" It's just such a travesty. Even Jake Silbermann said in an interview that he wished the boys could have more opportunities to be happy together to balance out all the suffering they go through to stay apart...because the show continuously refuses to do that. But apparently, that's too much to ask for. I sure didn't miss this horrible feeling of always wondering whether or not we would see the boys the following week only to find out we won't.
I agree Andy. I did expect a drop off, but not for them to disappear altogether. Why can't they at least be on one episode a week and show them being a happy couple? Instead we see them happy for 2 minutes and then they are gone as if it never happened. The next time we see them is the sex slate going to be wiped clean?
The next time we see them in what? 2011, 2012?, their 5 mins of happiness will be gone as they will already be dealing with another crises.More misery and unhappiness will ensure, in case you haven't seen enough of that yet.
Poor Luke was relegated to prop duty. Why?! I mean why?! This character is so wasted. There is still so much that you can do with this character. It looks like it's another Noah and Luke free week. This show has been painfully dull this week and the lack of my favorite couple isn't helping. ATWT has a goldmine with this couple. They have a pseudo lesbian couple on GL and they get tons of airtime. I just don't understand the reasoning behind that.
Well, it was nice to see Luke yesterday. I like seeing him interact with the other younger characters. For nearly 2 years, the writers never let him interact with other younger characters except for Jade. But that whole storyline with Casey and Alison was just so silly. They're too old to be acting like that. And Noah being gone for an entire month is absolutely inexcusable...but typical for this show. They just don't seem to care about the goldmine that Nuke is, otherwise they would capitalize on them more. Could you ever imagine other young couples like Will & Gwen or Casey & Maddie going a month between storylines? It's ridiculous.
Actually I like Luke in scenes with Jade, Alison, and Casey. What I don't like is him just being there as a prop. I don't get why this show won't capitalize on the Luke and Noah goldmine. What has happened that Jake Silbermann needs to be off for months at a time? I'm sure they could have found something for Luke and Noah to do, even if it's just sit and talk and have coffee. The writers during the writers strike were smart enough to do this. At least we'd get to see them be happy for five minutes.
It was nice to see Luke and Noah both for two days in a row, but I didn't think they were on enough. They were kind of in the background, but still cute as ever. Are Luke and Noah ever going to be front burner? It would be nice if they had a conversation about what's going on and dealt with it as a couple instead of breaking up.Also, do TPTB think they are off the hook with regards to Nuke sex. They let them do it once and it's never even going to be mentioned again? Come on, at least show them before or after stuff happens.
Quote: Are Luke and Noah ever going to be front burner? The definite answer to this is "no." The only way my answer would change to that question, and it would then change to "maybe," is if the leadership was to change on this show. But right now, as has said before, TPTB have their "favorites," and them and only them get a front burner storyline after front burner storyline after front burner storyline.Quote:Also, do TPTB think they are off the hook with regards to Nuke sex. They let them do it once and it's never even going to be mentioned again? Come on, at least show them before or after stuff happens. I would guess it might be mentioned again sometime far down the road, but most likely never shown. I might be wrong about this, but definitely don't think I'm wrong about the first answer I gave you. I wish I was though, I really do!
I really wish you were wrong about both answers, but unfortunately, I have to agree. They still have a lot to prove to NUKE fans.
This show sucks right now. I guess if you want to see Peg, Craig, and Dusty 24/7, you'd be in heaven. I don't want to just watch a glimpse of Luke and Noah. Is 3 days of significant airtime too much to ask?
To bad they could not of ussed the rest of the cast for it and each would play one part if it was cost each one that plays mone than one part gets paid for each.What I hate most is they kept up with Noah asking wht Luke will be getting or doing for V-Day now it looks like they willl only be on one day Thursday like all things it will be dropped or one will say what a grreat time it was so we would have to make it up in our minds what may of happend.I just love this show now so much to look forward for Ron
Jake recently mentioned to a fan that the boys have been filming more lately - roughly 40 pages of dialogue this past week. So, a couple months from now we might get some decent screen time from Luke and Noah. Jake also mentioned in regards to his pathetic screen time - "TPTB have heard the fans."That gives me little comfort seeing that TPTB have heard our complaints for more Nuke screen time for over a year now yet they continously never do anything about it. But at least we'll see them more once Damien comes back. Maybe Noah will actually be involved in the story this time unlike when Brian was in the picture.
I am grateful for P&G for making the changes! I am sick of those two. Luck has never been such a whimp as he is now. He use to be strong and sure of himself. Not anymore. I hate to say this but I wish they were gone to no mans land like Jen and Will.
To each his own. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, politely, I hope. I've been watching various soaps off and on since the 70's and I still watch ATWT mostly for Luke and Noah these days. I'd love to see more of the veterans too...especially a very feisty Lisa! Those were the days! But Luke and Noah are still an incredible young couple. And Luke will be just fine in the long run.
Quote:Jake recently mentioned to a fan that the boys have been filming more lately - roughly 40 pages of dialogue this past week. So, a couple months from now we might get some decent screen time from Luke and Noah. Jake also mentioned in regards to his pathetic screen time - "TPTB have heard the fans."That gives me little comfort seeing that TPTB have heard our complaints for more Nuke screen time for over a year now yet they continously never do anything about it. But at least we'll see them more once Damien comes back. Maybe Noah will actually be involved in the story this time unlike when Brian was in the picture. It looks like you were right. Maybe they "heard the fans" and then stuck cottonballs in their ears. Luke and Noah haven't been seen in almost 2 weeks and it looks like they aren't going to have a storyline focusing on them.
Quote:Quote:Jake recently mentioned to a fan that the boys have been filming more lately - roughly 40 pages of dialogue this past week. So, a couple months from now we might get some decent screen time from Luke and Noah. Jake also mentioned in regards to his pathetic screen time - "TPTB have heard the fans."That gives me little comfort seeing that TPTB have heard our complaints for more Nuke screen time for over a year now yet they continously never do anything about it. But at least we'll see them more once Damien comes back. Maybe Noah will actually be involved in the story this time unlike when Brian was in the picture. It looks like you were right. Maybe they "heard the fans" and then stuck cottonballs in their ears. Luke and Noah haven't been seen in almost 2 weeks and it looks like they aren't going to have a storyline focusing on them. They will be on this week and their next storyline starts at the end of June. Its time to let some of the other storylines finishing wrapping up or moving on to the next stage in their current storyline. Just remember there are other characters that get way more screen time than Luke and Noah and by that I mean there are times where we don't see some for months at a time and that has never been the case with Luke and Noah because they've always been on every month.
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