I love Team Slater!! Seeing them together on Monday was fantastic!! I love the little hideaway that Zach brought Kendall to! It was wonderful to see them have alone time! And the love scene!! Hot, hot, hot!!! I've missed love in the afternoon - especially with this couple!!!And I enjoyed Zach and Kendall having dinner with Erica and company. It was wonderful to see their snarky selves back in action. I loved seeing Kendall trying to keep some peace at the table, Zach asking to leave and then it happened. The writers remembered another great Zen love scene.Trenchcoat, lucky heels and of course the Red Wings Jersey. Wonderful!!! Zen was on fire and it was wonderful to see!
I love Zendall. Here's hoping that they are finally given a story line worthy of them as a couple and as an individual.
I am loving Zach and Kendall in this story. I finally feel like their problems and how they are dealing with them is both realistic and in character for them. I'm glad to see that both sides of the story is being told, and I look forward to them getting stronger so that they can have happier times as well. Go Zendall, Super Copule in the making!!!
All I can say is Pratt better deliver. I'm not too impressed so far.
Quote:All I can say is Pratt better deliver. I'm not too impressed so far. I agree, Birdie. All I've seen is character destruction of both Zach and Kendall. This needs to turn around ASAP!
Quote:Quote:All I can say is Pratt better deliver. I'm not too impressed so far. I agree, Birdie. All I've seen is character destruction of both Zach and Kendall. This needs to turn around ASAP! I agree. He's off to a very rocky start. I wonder what his opinion of them as people are. It doesn't seem to be too high.
Even when they're bickering, I love them. I just waiting for them to really, really talk things out so that they can move on to a better story line. It should be good.
Pratt, lame, lame, lame. Not just for Zach and Kendall, but pretty much all around it's been substandard work.For Zendall, the man hasn't even been able to cobble together a storyline that has a logical progression. The whole Iraq veteran story Taylor is in, trite and badly written. Frankie/Randi, well, they were already a snooze fest and Pratt hasn't done much to change that. Ryan/Greenlee/Aidan/Annie, nothing short of getting rid of all four of them could really help them, except throwing the criminals into jail. Oh wait, that's all four of them. Yep, jail would be a nice start for the murderer, baby kidnapper and the two men who tried to lynch someone.
Quote:Pratt, lame, lame, lame. Not just for Zach and Kendall, but pretty much all around it's been substandard work.For Zendall, the man hasn't even been able to cobble together a storyline that has a logical progression. The whole Iraq veteran story Taylor is in, trite and badly written. Frankie/Randi, well, they were already a snooze fest and Pratt hasn't done much to change that. Ryan/Greenlee/Aidan/Annie, nothing short of getting rid of all four of them could really help them, except throwing the criminals into jail. Oh wait, that's all four of them. Yep, jail would be a nice start for the murderer, baby kidnapper and the two men who tried to lynch someone. Preach it! I'm with ya'
Quote:For Zendall, the man hasn't even been able to cobble together a storyline that has a logical progression. Ryan/Greenlee/Aidan/Annie, nothing short of getting rid of all four of them could really help them, except throwing the criminals into jail. Oh wait, that's all four of them. Yep, jail would be a nice start for the murderer, baby kidnapper and the two men who tried to lynch someone. I agree. Ryan, Aidan, Annie and Greenlee have all been shown on screen doing criminal things, but Zach is the "ruthless one. The one that's deemed a killer. Ironic and hypocritical doesn't even begin to describe it.
How much more ruthless can you get than trying to lynch someone? Zach wanted retribution for Josh stealing 20 milllion dollars, but he's ruthless?Free Zendall from the gruesome foursome!!!
Yeah, people seem to forget that little lyinching incident that Aidan and Ryan pulled.
We are supposed to forget everything that anyone does with the exception of Zach and Kendall. I guess it is because TPTB never intended for Zach and Kendall to become AMC's best couple, they have done everything in their power to try and destroy them. I find it so unbelevable that they would continue trying to destroy what clicked all by itself, instead of trying to capitolize on the gift horse they were given. AM and TK made Zach and Kendall into the great couple they are with no help from TPTB.
I am rooting for Zach and Kendall. Both are hurting and have made some huge mistakes but the love is strong. It's still there. I hate that they are turning shutting each other out and not connecting.I'm hoping that they will come through this strong and more in love than ever.
I am with you Phyllis. Any other option is unacceptable to me...especially the re-written view of history that is being presented now.
Hard as it is to watch, I still love Zach and Kendall and I believe in their love, their marriage and their family. Even when AM was off the show for awhile, I saw Zach fall apart, beg her to come back to him and the boys and do everything he could to get her back, and I refuse to believe that that very recent memory is trumped by Ryan's need to "go on with his life as soon as he can", or whatever David advised him to do, and the upcoming Ryan and Kendall pairing. Pshaw. As for Reese, she's just passing through.My Zen love is still strong, and alot of the credit goes to AM and TK, not the writing.
^^ Ryan's need to go on with his life is fine..unless he is talking about replacing the REAL true love of his life (of the week) in like two minutes. Then it's all about being a selfish pig..no matter how they sugar coat it.
Kendall got blasted last year when she turned to Aidan in a moment of despair upon "learning" that Zach was dead...even though she regretted and felt ashamed for her mistake immediately.
Ryan is going to get blasted by me if does the same..especially if I know Ryan like I know I do, he will regret it for maybe 2 seconds and then feel he deserves whatever he wants and goes about getting it. That's how he felt when he married Annie, even though Annie had fears it was too soon. But he convinced he of what he wanted and then emotionally left Annie for Greenlee first when she returned and then Kendall when he had amnesia without any qualms or guilt. He immediately moved onto Greenlee when he remembered WHO he REALLY loved, without pausing. His WIFE falls apart (after Greenlee spent months torturing her when she first came back to PV) and gets placed in a mental instution and he is telling Greenlee that they deserve their happiness. They deserved squat..IMO.
I am more than tired of hearing what Ryan wants and feels he deserves..Now Kendall is making him feel better. He is always sweet as pie to Kendall when he is getting what HE wants out of the relationship. If she crosses him or disregards what he wants, she is will be a target again.
Zach and Kendall..all the way.
I am rooting for Zach and Kendall too. I always think of Kendall wedding vow "Nothing is unforgivable and if it is I'll forgive you anyway" I refuse to let this idiots lame writing change my mind. I'm just that stubborn and I am not buying what he's selling.
As long as TK and AM are still on the show there is always a good chance for Zen to make it thru. They are a supercouple in the making--already are to me. I will not be watching the Ryan drivel--already stopped watching 4 days ago. But as soon as I hear Zen are even making a step toward each other I will be right back in a heartbeat every step of the way. As long as these two actors are here, I will never give up. Ryan with his new true love every five minutes is a joke. I can just hear the laughter the next time he says those words to Kendall--heck, viewers were laughing when he said them to Greenlee because of how many times he has turned on a dime like this.So if TK re-signs, I will be rooting for this amazing couple if Frons and Pratt can find it in their cold, cold hearts to give us back the Zen that we fell in love with and still love passionately.
I still adore Zendall. AMC has never had a pairing like this before, not even Tad and Dixie were as great in my mind as Zach and Kendall.TK's whole bearing and stride lightened up when his beautiful leading lady, Alicia Minshew, came back. When Zach told Kendall welcome home this week after making love to her, I felt TK also meant it for Alicia. They are just magical together and I feel AM is TK's best leading lady to date and that includes Marty on OLTL.If TK does not re-sign I'm out. I will not watch the beautiful Alicia Minshew be wasted on Ryan.Ryan's only true love is...Ryan. Ryan needs to go through anger managment therapy, and he needs to go for job training because he doesn't know how to do anything. He is a total waste of a character and airtime.
I have always loved Zach and Kendall from their first meeting in Las Vegas. I hope TK re-signs so Zach and Kendall can continue, I will not watch a Ryan Kendall pairing. If they go that way, she will still be a detour unitl Greenlee comes back. Alicia, Kendall, and the fans deserve better than that. I hope part of Reese proving herself to Bianca's family in playing a role in reunited Zach and Kendall, as a way of repairing the damage she and Biance did to them.
I support Zach, Kendall and Zendall. I really would love for these two crazy characters to sit in a room for days and days and just talk everything through. I don't want to see Kendall with Ryape.
Quote:Ryan's only true love is...Ryan. Ryan needs to go through anger managment therapy, and he needs to go for job training because he doesn't know how to do anything. He is a total waste of a character and airtime. Ryan has turned into his father, something he swore he'd never do. The only difference is that his father's abuse was verbal, emotional AND physical. Ryan's abuse is emotional and verbal (bedding Kendall aside). Is it only a matter of time before the physical abuse rears its ugly head? Everyone hated Jonathan because of all the violence he perpetrated, but in his defense, he had a brain tumor affecting his ability to control himself. What's Ryan's excuse?
Quote:I support Zach, Kendall and Zendall. I really would love for these two crazy characters to sit in a room for days and days and just talk everything through. I don't want to see Kendall with Ryape. And make out a lot and have zex. IJS
I am currently boycotting AMC. There is NO WAY that I will watch that repulsive PIG Ryan touch the lovely Kendall!ZENDALL is my favorite AMC/Soap couple EVER. I know it's the "norm" for soap couples to stray...they've all done it...Jesse cheated on Angie, Tad cheated multiple times on Dixie/Dixie cheated on him, Nina cheated on Cliff...even Joe Martin had an emotional affair way back in the day...but all those couples truly love/d eachother...and NO GREATER LOVE is that of ZENDALL! I HATE that Kendall is being thrown under the Ryan propping steam roller...but I KNOW that for Kendall that ZACH is her one TRUE LOVE...just as Kendall is the only woman that Zach has ever truly loved...he's proven that a bazillion times, and will again IMHO.For me, it will always be...ALWAYS ONLY ZENDALL!
Quote:As long as TK and AM are still on the show there is always a good chance for Zen to make it thru. They are a supercouple in the making--already are to me. I will not be watching the Ryan drivel--already stopped watching 4 days ago. But as soon as I hear Zen are even making a step toward each other I will be right back in a heartbeat every step of the way. As long as these two actors are here, I will never give up. I will be rooting for this amazing couple if Frons and Pratt can find it in their cold, cold hearts to give us back the Zen that we fell in love with and still love passionately. I'm so excited that TK is staying. That makes me more convinced than ever that I will get my Zendall back one day. Hopefully sooner rather than later. Zendall4Ever
I agree. The best news this Zendall fan has had in literally months is that TK is staying on AMC for a little while longer. With comas, kisses, shootings, infidelity, surprise babies and separations, I was starting to give up, not on Zendall, but on a show that doesn't entertain me and is more about the shock than connecting with its audience on any level. Now with TK around, I have alot of hope. All anyone has to do is see how AM and TK light up the screen together, even when their characters are separating, to see that there's Zendall, and then there's Everyone Else. For now, I'll stay watching AMC, but if this story continues to take more wrong turns, I'll re-evaluate my TV choices at that time.
Well it's been an entire week and I haven't even peeked at the show. If I happen to catch an AMC promo while watching something else, I leave the room or turn off the channel.
And sadly, while I have also bought all the soap mags religiously. I am ignroing those as well. i don't even read them at the supermarket. No offense to the publishers but I am not interested in what AMC is selling at the moment.
Quote:Well it's been an entire week and I haven't even peeked at the show. If I happen to catch an AMC promo while watching something else, I leave the room or turn off the channel. And sadly, while I have also bought all the soap mags religiously. I am ignroing those as well. i don't even read them at the supermarket. No offense to the publishers but I am not interested in what AMC is selling at the moment. Kathy, I've stopped Zen Monday....I've only watched twice since...Once when I went to my SIL house and she had it on and last night I caught it on Soapnet because I heard TK/AM were amazing....and they were...I've stopped again because of the garbage they are showing...I also saw the ugly promo....and it just gave me more reason to tune out...Sadly, I just started buying SOW/SOD again, but there is nothing on AMC I care to know about right now, so I guess I'll stop for now.... Not interesting in anything AMC is selling...It's a shame all the way around...I still support TK/AM/Zendall, but can't watch this mess.....Zendall are the best thing AMC has going... It's a shame they are trashing it for the likes of Ryass and Reek...
Quote:Sadly, I just started buying SOW/SOD again, but there is nothing on AMC I care to know about right now, so I guess I'll stop for now.... Not interesting in anything AMC is selling...Can we interest you in stories about other soaps, mrskaz? GUIDING LIGHT and AS THE WORLD TURNS are looking particularly strong lately. And then there's my regular beat, GENERAL HOSPITAL...
Just dropping in to say I'm still supporting Zach and Kendall. Rough times are ahead, but hopefully the Zen fans will stay strong and villigiant. Just keep writing, especially the staff at SOD and SOW (either Sound Off, U Tell Us or some of the editors). I know (I think) they like hearing our opinions and will sometimes post our comments so I like reading for that -- especially if I agree with it (LOL). It is also interesting when SOD features some of the fan bases' campagns that gets mailed to the magazine. I have to applaud the columninsts lately for calling out AMC on some of the ridiculous stories.
I'm boycotting the show presently because I can't stand to watch the decimation of both Zach and Kendall. This is not good storytelling and certainly not entertaining. The third party interference by Ryan and Reese is something I don't care to see. This disgusting story needs to end now and they need to fix this mess.Having said that, I'm a Zen fan through and through....I will continue to support them to the end.
My support remains with Zach and Kendall. I want to see this fantastic couple come through this latest disaster and be stronger and better than ever.
I hate what they are doing to Zach and Kendall, but I do believe they will come through this stronger than ever. As much as I hate the storyline, Alicia and Thorsten are shinning and I am crying right along with Zach and Kendall. I hope this part of the storyline wraps up quickly, and they get on to better and happier times for the Slaters. They are fantastic together!
Quote:Quote:Sadly, I just started buying SOW/SOD again, but there is nothing on AMC I care to know about right now, so I guess I'll stop for now.... Not interesting in anything AMC is selling...Can we interest you in stories about other soaps, mrskaz? GUIDING LIGHT and AS THE WORLD TURNS are looking particularly strong lately. And then there's my regular beat, GENERAL HOSPITAL... Joe, I've watched AMC since I was a kid, but I used to tune into GL years ago.... I've been hearing some great things about GL, even though their ratings are low so I decided to check it out and I was surprised..I do hear that they are doing a same sex couple story and they are actually getting it right....from what I've been told...and Jeff Branson is now on GL....AMC loss is there gain.Y&R is really good also.... I just miss my AMC...I do love the interviews in SOD/SOW with AM, TK, etc....so I will pick up SOD/SOW when I see TK, AM, or something related to them..I would also be interested to read what you think about GL story about a same sex couple... I haven't really seen it, but I hear it was really good, so wondering if you feel the same..I do love reading the columes in SOD/SOW.... even though I may not agree with everything that is said, I have to say, the columns are interesting...and we can't all agree on everything...LOLSo after this long winded post, the answer to your question is Yes.... I would be interested in reading about GL, Y&R, etc...and anything with Alicia or Thorsten.....I would also be interested if SOD/SOW would do an interview with Anne Sweeney or soomeone high up at ABC..... I'm curious as to what they think about whats going on with ABC daytime and all their soaps...and how unhappy many, many long time and new fans are with the show.I've noticed that some of the actors/actresses at AMC are starting to speak out, in their own way..... TB, TK, AM all have spoken out....and I applaud their courage.....It's sad that I've become so disappointed with a show that's been part of my family and my life since I was a child... Things change, times change, but AMC is really bad right now....and I miss watching it...Hopefully, things with AMC will change and soon....Change in a good way....
I also hate what they are doing with Zach and Kendall and I feel that they will come thru this stronger. Thorsten and Alicia have been doing a wonderful job with this awful storyline and I feel very sad about the direction that this story is heading but I will always support these two actors. I can't say the same for the powers to be and the writers. Zach and Kendall are the reason I started to watch and will continue to watch as long as Thorsten and Alicia are together on the show.
Even during this horrid s/l, whenever Zach and Kendall do actually get a scene together, the love and passion just comes thru. These two have a chemistry that just jumps off the screen. That's what keeps me hanging on--that and wanting to support my two favorite actors, TK and AM. I do believe Zen will be reunited and since I'm not watching the current Rendall crap, I will be able to enjoy Zen again without these hideous Rendall images burned in my brain. I cannot wait for the day Zen is back together and I will once again rush home for lunch eager to see AMC rather than dreading it. I'm so glad TK re-signed. That gives me hope.
I am with you maggiek I will not be watching when the ick happens. I didn't watch when the ick happen with Adian and I am not certainly not watching this crud either. I don't want any of those images burned into my brain. I hate that they are doing this to Kendall again. This whole storyline to me was totally unnecessary and so so wrong.They are throwing Kendall under the bus for a useless character just to give him a storyline because he can't carry one on his own. I just want Zach and Kendall together with the boys and happy for a little while. Is that too much to ask for?
Dropping in to say I support Zach and Kendall 100%. I can't believe that once again TPTB having Kendall "mourn" the loss of her husband and best friend with sex. What? Again with the grief sex? How about allowing the character to actually grow and learn from her mistakes rather than repeating them.Anyway, I feel that Zach and Kendall are such a powerful couple that they can survive anything. I hope the writers will do this great couple justice by thoroughly explaining motivations and actions rather than just telling the use that they are confused. It's sad and not something I find entertaining at all. If Zach and Kendall would be allowed to address their current issues without just constantly adding on new ones, the show would be 1000 times better.
I would love to see an interview with Anne Sweeney about the mess that has become AMC and her take on how they portray woman.First Krystal and now Kendall. They think woman watching want to see woman looking like fools. Kendall is a smart girl and you can't tell me that she doesn't realize that when Ryan hurts Zach it hurts her and her boys. This is insane.Zach and Kendall need someone who can write them a good story and not rehash the same stories over and over. They have two amazing talents who have enormous chemistry and they waste them by having them prop other people.TK hasn't had a story since he resigned two years ago. He's been on babysitting duty.They can't even get a decent love scene everything is edited out but I'll bet a million buck we'll see plenty of Kendall and Ryan (who the viewers don't want to see). What a way to run a business is it any wonder AMC is failing. I remember a time when soaps showcased their most popular couples especially the love scenes. We get a Zen love scene twice a year if we're lucky and then it's one minute.I've stopped buying all magazines. The only time I pick one up is when I see an article on Lish or TK or Zach and Kendall which is rare.
I completely support AM, TK, Zach, Kendall, & Zendall....but I can't support ABC/AMC..I have no desire to watch Kendall being used & abused by Ryass again...All the women on the show are being written as weak, no self-esteem, no backbone, no brains and need a bully or an abuser to take care of them and think for them...Kendall, the strong, independent, fiesty, kickass Kane that I grew to love has lost all of that...Ryass usning and abuser another women makes me sick..There is nothing sexy, romantic, or interesting about an abuser using and abusing his victim and the victim is never allowed to stand up to him or be free of her abuser.It saddens me to see my favorite character ripped to shreds to showcase a character that makes me sick..Even the way TPTB are promoting this suggest that they see Kendall as a [censored] and Ryass as the poor greiving widow....Kendall & Ryass in any way, shape, or form is a story of abuse...nothing more....I feel so bad for TK/AM... THey gave us a thing of beauty, only to have Pratt come in and rip it apart for 2 useless, disgusting, poorly written characters....Until Kendall is free of her abuser, until Zendall are free of the toxic waste known as Ryan Lavery, I will be shopping, writing, cleaning house, watching Y&R, but I will not tune in to see my favorite character decimated, dirtied, ruined by Ryass...Hell, going to the dentist and having him pull out all your teeth without the use of pain meds would be easier than watching this crap...
Well I'm going to support Zach and Kendall as well. What I am not going to support is Pratt's misogynistic writing. I am not watching the awfulness occur.Just put Zach and Kendall in the same room and it becomes electrified. I cannot understand the character destruction just to give Ryan a storyline. Why must characters, especially women, be degraded for this character?Ryan has run his course on AMC...time to move on.
Cararn, I will never understand why TPTB continue to believe that Ryan Lavery is a useful character.....The thing is, Kendall isn't the only female who is being dumbed down, written as if she has no brain, no backbone, no self esteem, and can't make decisions without her abusers approval...I didn't watch, but my friend told me that Kendall couldn't even decide to call Zach without Ryan telling her to..>WTH is up with that..Look at Krystal... I don't like the character, but even I admit, KWAK uses to have a backbone and didn't take ishfrom anyone....Now, she's a pill popping harpy who can't breathe without David telling her toAmanda needs Jake/Frankie to take care of her, not to mention JR... Jake spent months calling Amanda a [censored] to her face and now he's taking care of her..I hate it...Give Kenall back her brains, her self-esteem, her backbone....Hell, give al lthe woman back their backbone, brains, and self-esteem....Strong men do not make stronger women.... Women do that themselves...I refuse to watch the destruction of Kendall and all the women on AMC......TK/AM rock......I just hate to see them wasted in this story and I hate to see Kendall ruined for Ryan Lavery, a woman abusing jerk that TPTB seem to think is a hero/good guy...Sick, twisted, evil...This story is nothing, but a story about an abuser and his victim and the victim will never be free...Never because TPTB seem to think this is romantic, sexy, interesting...while the mass majority of viewers, who are women see this as sick, twisted, and disgusting...
Quote:Well I'm going to support Zach and Kendall as well. What I am not going to support is Pratt's misogynistic writing. I am not watching the awfulness occur.Just put Zach and Kendall in the same room and it becomes electrified. I cannot understand the character destruction just to give Ryan a storyline. Why must characters, especially women, be degraded for this character?Ryan has run his course on AMC...time to move on. ICAM! I am so sick of Ryan! I wish he would find someone else instead of sniffing around Kendall! Zach and Kendall belong together.! Zen always
Mrskaz, I don't know how many more words exist that could express the outrage, disgust and insult that the fans feel for AMC's writing right now. I have felt and said in the past, Mr. Pratt may be a good writer, but he is not a good fit for AMC or for any daytime serial. I cannot understand why he has been allowed to take a show with a rich thirty nine year history and destroy it. I realize that many of the characters that existed all those years ago are no longer on the show,but their very existence created the Pine Valley we know. But for a very few, there are those that now have been on the show for a long enough period of time to have a significant history. Mr. Pratt has taken that history and either ignored it or changed it to suit his purposes and those of the character. For instance he has negated every bit of growth that Kendall achieved as a woman over the past four years as she became a responsible business woman, wife and mother. Yes her feisty tendencies are still there but her insecurities were all but banished because of the level of love she received from and returned to Zach. Kendall isn't confused, Mr Pratt is.Amanda has been written so sordidly, I cannot even begin to describe what I feel Pratt has done here.His misogynistic, writing has regressed women in general to the early 1900's. I cannot begin to describe my white hot rage at this writer who allows a charcater like Kendall or Krystal, whom I do not even like, lie on their backs to assuage their grief or guilt, instead of being the resilient, strong responsible women they should be. I feel I am in the 1970's fighting for women's rights. I know now how my mother felt and how grateful I am to her and those women who fought for equal rights. They didn't do that to allow this kind of writing for women, or men, to take place. Mr.Pratt's disregard for characater integrity, show history and his view of how women act in certain circumstances is skewed at the very least. He needs a reality check.As for Ryan being an abuser...well let me say this..my outrage over this storyline is coming from a very real place. No, I have not been abused but as you can see from my user name I am an RN. One that works in an critical care unit. If it was allowed, I'd let you come in sometime and show you the battered and beaten faces and bodies on life support of the women and elderly men and women who have been abused... So much so that even their family members have a hard time identifying them.We have all heard Ryan verbally and emotionally abuse Kendall, he is doing it now; we have all seen Ryan raise his fist to strike his pregnant wife yet these people insist that this cretin is a romantic hero. HE. IS. NOT. It begins as verbal abuse and progresses from there to sometimes dire ends..death! And that in a nutshell, is the main reason I do not and will not want to see Ryan anywhere near Kendall or any woman for that matter, until his anger management issues are resolved and until the writers understand that the majority of fans are WOMEN!I urge all of you not to watch or if you must, please for the sake of all abuse victims do not watch especially March 17th the day Ryan will once again use Kendall by having sex with her. Insatead of honoring Greenlee and his love for her with a riverside memorial, he'll have sex with a married woman.Pratt needs to go!
Cararn, you post made me cry...I've seen and felt the effects of long term abuse and it's ugly, very, very ugly...IMHO, as someone who has experience both physical, emotional, and pshchological abuse, the emotional and psychological is worse and harder to recover fromIt took me years and I do mean years to deal with the effects of the emotional & psychological abuse I suffered...and I'm not alone..Ryan Lavery is an emotional and psychological abuser and has been a physical abuser....He's is a master at emotionally & psychologically abusing his victims..and to have TPTB call this character a good guy, hero, savior of women sickens me....I used to love Ryan when he first came on the show, but in 2004, Ryan became the abuser he is today, and now I loathe himIf TPTB would just call him what he is..and tell a story about abuse, in a realistic way, I could watch that...Have Kendall realize that what she has with Ryan is nothing more than an abusive, toxic, life-threatening relationship....and deal with it...Allow Kendall to revisit her history with Ryan and see it through clear eyes and not the fantasy she has created..Have Kendall finally admit that she is Ryan's victim....and have an emotionally draining, heart-wrenching scene with Kendall & Erica where she admits to her mother that Ryan abused her and she needs help...Show Kendall going to therapy do deal with this...What a wonderful story that would be for women and victims...So many women do not speak out and the abuse continues.... A lot of people believe that abuse is hitting, beating, but it's not just that... It's name calling... It's beating someone down... It's ripping a person self-esteem and self-worth to shreds and that is what Ryan always does to the women in his life..especially Kendall and this continuesThis would also give them a chance to rebuild Ryan....Have Kendall confront her abuser in a public way.... Call him out on his abuse of her, GL, Annie, etc...and have Ryan start to take a look at his treatment of woman...Tell the story from the eyes of the victim and the abuser and have the abuser ( Ryan) realize that he is THATMONSTER and needs help...Let us see Ryan go to counseling, like we did Jon, and have to admit that is what he is...AMC would be addressing a socially relevant issue in a positive way for both the victim and the abuser...Ryan, was a victim of abuse and grew up to be just like his father, only his abuse is more damaging and the affects are longer lasting...I doubt TPTB will ever do this, but I really, truly believe if they would, the ratings would skyrocket, and fans would cheer...Kendall could come out stronger, with self-esteem and self-worth back...... She could be a spokesperson for victims of abuse..Ryan could finally address the issues that make fans hate him and want him gone..... They could also have Ryan speaking out about what makes a person abuse and how they can get help...Until TPTB admit that Ryan is an abuser and Kendall is his victim, nothing is going to change... the hate for Ryan wil only grow...I dont' understand why they ignore this.... I really dont' because we've been calling this out for years....but no one is listening...
Right on Phyllis.If the writer actually wanted to showcase a competent story, he would stop with the out of character actions and the plot points, and treat the viewers with a character driven story.One that allows Zach and Kendall to work together, discuss their problems and deal with them. I've have enough of the plot created obstacles. They are exhausting and pointless.To me, Zach and Kendall are the greatest soap couple and certainly the best of AMC. Write for them as a team, because that is who they are. The show could be 100% better if it paid attention to who these characters are, their history, and allowed them to grow.
ITA with caren and you, but what can we do to get AMC to correct this mess? Is there anything? I will not watch K & R love scene, I would be ill!! Can't stand the thought of them being together! My hope is that what you said will happen and Ryan will be out of the Zendall orbit. He does not belong in their lives to the extent he is. If you know some way we fans can help to get rid of this type of s/l and do what you suggested, I would do it with a million other fans!!
Quote:If you know some way we fans can help to get rid of this type of s/l and do what you suggested, I would do it with a million other fans!!
Outside of writing to the show and to the show's sponsors to say how much we love Zendall or even more importantly, how we HATE what is going on right now... there is really not much to do..except turn off the show (and I have).
Sadly, writing has only done so much when it comes to Ryan. It seems the show insists that he be front and center but his storylines keep flopping....so they give him other people's storylines.
It's lIke when Dixie was here and in the search for her daughter Kate. Here was Emma who was supposed to be Kate and brought on for that reason....and all of a sudden she's Ryan's daughter and the show is scrambling to come up with a new Kate - Kathy. At this point, Brian Frons ANNOUNCES to the world that Annie and Ryan are the new AMC supercouple. ..which went over like a lead balloon.
Then we have the bonding of Aidan and Greelee..and a new fan base was forming and they were becoming REALLY popular.. and then RB came back, and all of a sudden, Greenlee loves Ryan and Aidan is out the window.
Now since RB left and Ryan is in need of a storyline, they recycle a plot that was played out years ago ..and stick it in the middle of their groundbreaking lesbian love story..(ahem) and now Kendall all of a sudden has not been able to make a choice between Ryan and Zach. Oh really. she has made her choice MANY MANY times.
But hey, make Kendall regress and become STUPID and she can't run her life or her company without Ryan coming in to save the day (Oh Ryan thank you for helping me figure out my little old computer...I am just a girl, I can't figure these things out on my own, thank you big strapping man..BLAH)
And then to make matters worse, she is getting ADVICE about her husband from the man who has said OVER and OVER he wants to ruin him and who admits hates him. A dog would have better instincts than Kendalll is allowed to have at this time..
The dumbing down of Kendall continues..and for what? So Ryan gets to be involved with the "popular couple" and be front and center again. I cry FOUL. I an really angered that TK and AM and all their hard work bringing Zendall to life is continually overshadowed by being forced to give Ryan a life.
Quote:ITA with caren and you, but what can we do to get AMC to correct this mess? Is there anything? I will not watch K & R love scene, I would be ill!! Can't stand the thought of them being together! My hope is that what you said will happen and Ryan will be out of the Zendall orbit. He does not belong in their lives to the extent he is. If you know some way we fans can help to get rid of this type of s/l and do what you suggested, I would do it with a million other fans!!
I have written, I have called. I have contacted national organizations for suggestions to appeal to the writers and executves to discontinue the demoralizing writing of women that is taking place under Pratt's reign of horror. I am at a loss at to what else to do except to keep the pressure up.
I knw one thing and that this is a business and and the bottom line for a business is product and service. AMC has a very poor product that insults and demoralizes its core audience women. Women speak out about the poor product and the insulting writing but customer service at ABC/AMC is nonexistent. The overall show is bad. The last hope we have is to stop watching and tank the ratings.
I would hate for this to happen because the AMC cast, except for a few, are extremely talented. I don't want to see them lose their jobs. They have humanized these fictional characters, and brought a great deal of joy to the audience. They deserve better than to have their character's history assassinated.It's disrespectful to them as actors because of all the hard work they poured into realizing these characters. It makes it seem as though it was all for nothing to have it negated in one fell swoop of Pratt's poison pen.Pratt has insulted them as well.
What can be done to correct this mess? Go back to Pratt's Day of Destruction....the tornado. Put Kendall back in the coma but...have her wake up and it's only a few days later.i'm willing to forget the holidays happened. She wakes up..Bianca is still pregnant, the baby is not Zach's but from a sperm farm; Reeses's name is not Reese but Gabrielle. Josh died in an accident...gave his heart to an unknown recepient; Amanda is still pregnant with the devil's spawn; she and Jake are still forming a lovely relationship; Greenlee left town because she and Ryan couldn't make it work. As for Ryan...he's trying to be both mother and father to Emma. He's acting responsibly; he's not blaming anyone for his messed up life; he is staying out of Zendall's life. Erica is getting very close to Adam again. Jessie didn't have secret wife and child; Zach and Kendall are together working on their marriage together and loving each other to distraction while Kendall plans Bianca's May wedding to Gabrielle. Their baby is born during the ceremony and then they go off to Paris...go from there with the others that's one way to fix it.
One more thing. I might get edited for this but I am going to put it out there anyway...Pratt wrote for GH with Guza. JMO...but GH's viewers are less sophisticated and possibly a lot younger than AMC's audience. They may appreciate more superficial things such as Jason's abs, or the next cute guy than the AMC audience who appreciates substance, and continuity.(not that I cannot be superficial) No offense was meant to GH viewers. AMC is not GH..it has a different feel, a different audience and a different moral code than GH.
Pratt needs to respect this and its history.
I still think he needs to go!
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