That could be interesting if they did it right. I know it just ruined my day when they said Adam was dead. I'm really hoping that it was just a misdirection and he's hiding somewhere enjoying the show.

Nope, I doubt it. Pretty hard to fake a bullet hole in the back.

I found it odd that Stuart wasn't called or that he didn't come up to the house hearing all the noise. I didn't like Tad getting shot. What was the need of that? He is needed to help figure out who the killer is. I don't like this story. Adam deserved better than this. If your going to have a murder story do it to David or Liza or Krystal.

I hate this story. And why didn't they tell Stuart? That's very strange, no one even mentioned him.And as for that devil, Krystal now realizes that it is entirely possible that David did it (thanks to little A) and he made sure he had an alibi. I wonder if he has already slept with that nurse or is just promising to- when the time is right. I can't wait for Krystal to find out about his alibi. What do you think... explosions or making excuses for him?

She'll keep on making excuses for him. At one time I liked the girl had backbone, but now she is nothing but a wuss. I would rather her be shot instead of my man Tad.

Amen to that. I never really thought of Krystal as desperate like this. But the last year has been hard, what did Adam say..something to the effect that "You shouldn't have any trouble finding a man, by my count you've had 3 husbands in the last year." I guess the devil has his claws in her.

I can't help but think this "mystery" will come down to Adam having accidentally shooting/killing Stuart and not remembering because of the meds Dr. David had him on..of course, the search for the "killer" will go on and on and there will be a trail and all this will come out just before the trail ends...

Oh I hope not. I don't think I could watch Adam react to finding out that he killed Stewart, that'll be the final heart attack.

I'm in agreement there.. his reaction finding out he was dead was heart-breaking enough...

I beg to differ. i think that is exactly what needs to happen. Character growth. Adam has been one note for years now, and in my eyes, lost any redeeming qualities when he left Krystal laying on the floor in labor. BTW...where was the service staff when Krystal went down??? Just a random thought....It would be great if that baby turned out to be his in the end.

I hope that Stuart's death does bring about a change in Adam. He's been such a cold, heartless b*stard I just wanted to fast forward through his scenes. The service staff going conveniently missing isn't the only discrepancy in that household. Nevermind the fact that those darned tunnels have never been closed up, why is it, with all their supposed security, that the door is always unlocked and everyone in Pine Valley just barges in at will without so much as a knock on the door or a ring of the doorbell?? For that matter, no matter whose home it is, people walk in and out without knocking. That's bizarre.

Adam saying goodbye to Stewart was just terrible, I cried too, it was sooo sad. Did you check out how that nurse took the fall for drugging Adam, I wonder who David is sending her to take care of? They're supposed to arrest Kendall for it but there are some things that don't make sense... If Zack didn't do it ( I can't believe he did) then how did he get hold of the gun that shot Stewart, ballistics match? They have Zack, he said he did it, ballistics match, his prints on gun and he had motive and was already arraigned HOW can they justify arresting Kendall?I'm not sure who did it but I'm leaning toward David but still the ballistics? But he was desperate for an alibi from the nurse, he threw a temper tantrum when he found out it was Stewart, I don't know. Maybe the nurse did it to help David?.. it'll make my head spin...

I think the nurse did it for David. She's nuts.

He's sure got her wrapped up tight. A puppet on a string, I wish Krystal would find out how close they really are, maybe a nice dose of jealous I'm going to lose him, is just what she needs...what goes around..Adam, Tad and who else I don't know about.

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Did you check out how that nurse took the fall for drugging Adam, I wonder who David is sending her to take care of?
They're supposed to arrest Kendall for it but there are some things that don't make sense... If Zack didn't do it ( I can't believe he did) then how did he get hold of the gun that shot Stewart, ballistics match? They have Zack, he said he did it, ballistics match, his prints on gun and he had motive and was already arraigned HOW can they justify arresting Kendall?
I'm not sure who did it ..:

Didn't Zach find Kendall's dropped gun in the garden? He picked it up and fired it..so his prints WOULD be on the gun.

Also who is David taking care of? Something tells me it's Greenlee. I never felt that David grieved enough for Greenlee (well no body really grieved for her..even the love of her life, Ryan who moved on in like two seconds but that's Ryan for ya). But I think David would have been beside himself if he learned that Greenlee was dead(and he really wasn't) and would be off for revenge against someone (and he really didn't) . SO I am guessing Greenlee.

They can bring Greenlee back when Ryan has been with every single person in Pine Valley and declared them to be his true love..until there is no one left...which should be soon enough. He declared his love for three people in one year..it's time for someone new.

Zach fired the gun into the air so that he'd have gunpowder residue on his hand to incriminate himself. Kendall did drop it on the terrace, and Zach saw her through the window when he was inside the house. So. . . who the heck picked it up and shot Adam before Zach got to it? And, if Jesse is so sure Zach is lying about being the shooter, why weren't all the people at the house tested for residue? Some police work! And we're going to be speculating about all this until AUGUST!!!

Yeah, I guess Zach did see Kendall through the window and could have went out and picked it up. I don't think either one did it. I'm leaning toward David, making sure he had an alibi, throwing a tantrum when he found out it wasn't Adam etc. or maybe someone else in the mansion who we don't know about yet. Think Adam is ready to close up those tunnels and fire his security?I think they tested those they knew about , by the time most of the people came clean about being there it was too late. Seems most of PV where in that house that night. I thionk you're right about them dragging it out, seems like they're already starting to cover the same ground over and over.

It was Adam in the living room with the revolver

No, it was Ashley in the car when she got lost in the rain.

hahahahahahah LOL she took that SUV from Wisconscion to PA lol with Nikki dragging from the bumper

What???? Are you in the right soap forum? Who are Ashley and Nikki?

lol sorry main me and Sunny were just fourm hopping one night lol... were from YR

That was funny... I thought I clicked on the wrong forum or things had really changed in the last few days in Pine Valley.

Well, ya never know in Pine Valley! I thought I missed half an episode. That's all it takes for the story to go wacky on us.

Well, RichardB, if the writing's half-way decent on Y&R, I just might jump ship and join you and Sunny over there!

Stroy is already wacky....LOL

Yeah, I should have said "wackier!"

OMG! I just saw an AMC promo for what's coming up in October. Stuart's killer is being revealed this month. The thought occurred to me that the reason they were dragging it out was that they were waiting to see who was not moving to LA before they decided who fired the fatal shot. What if it's Zach?!? Think about it, Zach is crazy in love with Kendall but he's keeping his distance because he can't get past her cheating on him. He slept with Liza, and he doesn't have it in him to be a hypocrite. Maybe he's keeping Kendall at arm's length because he knows he may go to jail and he doesn't want to break her heart again. Too farfetched? It would be a way to write him out.

I don't think so. You can say a lot of things about Zach but he would never have allowed Kendall to suffer all these months if he did it. He in fact confessed early on when he thought she did..to protect her.Sorry, I don't see your scenario as even a slight possibility.

I think the writers didn't know who the killer was until the final move list came out. Since ZAch is leaving before the move they might make him the killer.

Aiden is leaving also. If they were going to make some character who is leaving AMC the murderer, it would be more likely to be him..since he has no real ties to anyone. Aiden certainly has as much cause as anyone..he loved Annie and now she is with Adam.,I stand by my comments that they could never make Zach the murderer and let Kendall suffer all these months. Even Pratt could not do that. That would make no sense at all and goes against every single thing the character has stood for since the beginnng.

Zach could, because just like he did, he wouldn't leave her in prison.Pratt? Look what he did to LIza. He's a mess & has no idea what he's doing.Heck it really could be anyone on the list to not go,even little Colby.As far as making since. AMC's has not made any in a real long time

I know, I don't want it to be Zach, but with all the weirdness going on, who knows? In Aiden's interview in this week's SOD, he said that he doesn't like the way they're sending him off and neither will the fans. He had gone to Julie to discuss the out-of-character things they have Aidan doing, only to be fired. Maybe you're right. Aidan didn't seem predisposed to murder, but whatever gets the story moving. . .

Me1957, I think you called it back in May. Seeing today's show, I'm thinking that Adam was in a drugged stupor and hallucinated that he was killing himself. Remember hearing his voice saying "I have to die for all the things I've done?" (I brought this up in another thread back in July, too.) If that's it, what a cop out! He'd get off because he was not in his right mind. That may work for Adam, but even though poor Jonathan had a brain tumor and was not responsible for all the terrible things he did as a result, the fans never forgave him and he had to be written out. (Best thing that ever happened to Jeff, though, 'cause he won an emmy on his new show.)

I still say Emma.

I don't think so. Emma overheard Ryan and someone else (Aidan or Scott??) arguing about Annie blaming Emma, and Emma came running downstairs shouting "I didn't shoot him, Daddy!" And what's up with Annie having Emma fake being in a coma?? Today when they were alone, Emma said "Can I open my eyes now, Mommy?" and Annie just grinned like the Cheshire cat.

I don't watch the show...i just follow it through mags and the forums. Pratt ruined it for me. The reason I say Emma, is that I don't believe the actress is making the move. But, since Zach is on the cover of SOD and is the only one on the cover not making the move....someone already posted that theory, and I agree. maybe Emma saw Zach?

I don't think that makes any sense because there would be no reason for Annie or Emma to lie to protect Zach.

If they saw Zach do it, why wouldn't they just say so..if they have no qualms about keeping Kendall in jail for a murder she did not commit, why would they care about Zach?

Someone is lying to protect someone else..and lying about Zach protects no one.

The "surprise" murderer will probably be Adam and Annie has lied to protect him..and encouraged Emma to do the same thing..because it keeps her meal ticket relationship alive. Adam was on medication at the time and probably has blocked it out that he accidently killed his own brother that he loved more than life itself.

TO me, it's more of a storyline if they have the murderer stay on the show than if it's someone they write off.

That said, I cannot believe how much character destruction there has been on the show to tell this miserable long drawn out storyline. How many characters are fighting for themselves? How many characters are willing to lie to keep an innocent woman in jail to protect someone else? How many times can we hear Ryan judge others without looking in the mirror? How many times is Erica going to look like a fool promoting Ryan as this great father - especially since one of the reasons that Emma fell down the stairs was because Ryan could not stop arguing with Annie in front of his own child and forced her to run away to get away from it all?

If Pratt thinks this storyline is exciting, he is seriously delusional.

I don't think it was Zach. When he found the gun, he purposely fired it into the air so he'd have residue on his hand so he could take the blame away from Kendall. If he'd really done it, he wouldn't have had to fake it, and he never would have let Kendall be arrested for it. I still think it was Adam, but we'll find out very soon.

Quote:Me1957, I think you called it back in May. Seeing today's show, I'm thinking that Adam was in a drugged stupor and hallucinated that he was killing himself. Remember hearing his voice saying "I have to die for all the things I've done?" (I brought this up in another thread back in July, too.) If that's it, what a cop out! He'd get off because he was not in his right mind. That may work for Adam, but even though poor Jonathan had a brain tumor and was not responsible for all the terrible things he did as a result, the fans never forgave him and he had to be written out. (Best thing that ever happened to Jeff, though, 'cause he won an emmy on his new show.) I'm still sticking with it being Adam but if it's not, it'll be little Emma..

I watch about ten minutes of AMC a day ( when another one of my stories is on commercial). My choice for who dunnit, is either Adam or Zach. I say this, only because he is not moving with the cast to LA, and Emma's face is not in the lineup on the cover of SOD for next week.