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OPINION
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Marc Wilkofsky, copy editor
— Soap Opera Weekly
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July 20, 2009 I recently spoke with Robert Newman about his other world, the off-Broadway show Sessions (see my review in the previous blog entry, and please note that he won't appear in Wednesday matinees), and about one reason why soap viewers might attend the show: his years as Josh on GUIDING LIGHT.
Soap Opera Weekly: How do you do it, finding the physical and mental energy to pour yourself into both characters, Josh and Peter?
Robert Newman: You know, my whole world right now is about time management. There are times [when] Sessions goes down at about 10:20, 10:30ish. I don't get home until midnight, 12:30ish or even to sleep [until] around 1 o'clock. Several times, I've had to get up at 5 to make my way into Manhattan. And then there are times where I have to plan a 20-minute nap here and a 20-minute nap there. I'm trying to be careful with my diet. I'm trying to stay on my exercise thing, and it's just like this balancing act that I do, because Sessions takes an enormous amount of energy out of me in every performance. It's a very draining role. I hardly ever leave the stage, and it's a real emotional roller coaster of a role, and I just feel completely wiped out afterward. And starving, by the way — [it's an] interesting phenomenon, but I'm famished by the time I'm done with the show. And then Josh, somehow it's worked out fine. In fact, in some ways, I feel a little more energized playing Josh. And I don't know how to explain that, but I love being onstage. I love doing theater work, and I think that informs my work as Josh, as well. That is part of the reason that for the last several years, I've been taking a month off every summer to go away to do some theater so I could go onstage [and] come back re-energized.
Weekly: And as far as exercise, you go out for runs? Or you do things at home?
Newman: Kettlebell, baby! I have one at my dressing room at the theater and I have one at home. Beth Chamberlin (Beth, GL) got me totally hooked on it six months ago. It's changed my body completely and it keeps me going. It's basically a round ball — in my case, 30 pounds with a handle on it — that you throw around, not like a softball, but you throw it around, swing it around, press it and punch it; there are all kinds of things to do with it. It wipes you out in a short amount of time, and it really works. It's improved my golf game and improves flexibility. I'm a big fan.
Weekly: Do you have time to do that in the short intermission? Or do you rest?
Newman: [In the] intermission, no; I barely have time to change my clothes and have a glass of water. But I do it often, in between the matinee and evening performances. I have about a three-hour break in between, so I can do my 45-minute workout and shower up, and have plenty of time to grab a bite to eat, and then do the second performance. I don't think people sometimes realize how difficult the matinee-to-evening thing can be; it's a trick. You have to stay very quiet in between. You can't overdo certain things — you have to get some rest — but at the same time you can't let your body shut down, because you have a whole other show to do. But vocally and in terms of energy, it's tricky.
Weekly: What aspects of Peter and Sessions in general pulled you into the musical?
Newman: You know, it's funny. You know the story that Ron Raines (Alan, GL) called me on the golf course and said, "I just saw the show and I know they're replacing the lead, and I think you'd be very good for this. I told them to contact you." And they did. I got a hold of the script, and at first I met with the producers and director, and we talked over some things, but I still hadn't read the script. I got a hold of the script and read through it, and then I went to see it. I felt like the potential I was seeing for the character I didn't see onstage, and I was really perplexed by it, because I'm drawn to characters, like Joshua, who are broken and at a turning point in their lives, where they are beginning to question who they are and the significance of their life up to that point. And that's exactly where Peter is. He's at a place where he's not sure what he does has value. A part of that is because he's on the brink of having an affair with a younger patient. So his journey kind of informs his patients' journey, and vice versa. One of the things [writer] Albert Tapper was looking for was the idea that we put therapists up on a pedestal, where we expect them to have their lives together. They must know the secret to having a great life. Now, I know several therapists personally, and some of them don't have their lives together. They can be pretty messed up.
Weekly: But they're very good listeners.
Newman: Yeah, which I have to be through a big hunk of this play. So I'm very drawn to that field. I was a psychology major when I began my college career, before I switched over to theater later on. Part of that was because I felt that there was a strong connection between psychology and acting. They're both about understanding human behavior; how screwed-up we are and why we do the things we do. How often we know the best and healthiest choice, but we often choose something else. And we know we're doing it, but we choose it anyway, and we'll have to deal with the consequences. This whole play is about choices and consequences, and trying to understand if there is a value in what I do. This is something that I struggle with on the soap opera all the time. How much value is there in playing a character in a soap opera? And then, every once in a while, you get a glimpse of it from a fan. I met a fan once who was battling cancer and told me, "All throughout chemotherapy, the one thing I was holding onto was your show." And then you say, "Well, I guess there is value." People need to be able to escape to a world like Springfield, like they need medical attention and other things in their lives. They need some sort of place to go that's familiar to them.
Weekly: And a little piece of advice that Josh gives a character may be very inspirational for a viewer?
Newman: Well, hopefully. I mean, you know, I like that we explore all kinds of different issues. You know, I'm not sure that I'd want anyone to pattern their marriage after Josh's nine failed marriages [laughs]. That probably isn't a good idea. But yeah, I think that when we're at our best, people are seeing things familiar to their own lives, and they watch and see how Josh and Reva deal with a particular problem, and hopefully it brings them to a better place.
Weekly: Definitely. So, in Sessions, what is Peter's main problem? Having seen it, I've noticed that he has to do about 10 things at once, but what do you think is his main problem?
Newman: Well, what you see [are] hints of his problems in real life. You see a hint of where his marriage is at, which is stalled. You see that he's questioning the importance of what he does for a living, and if it has value. You see him kind of toying with this woman [Leila] and crossing this line that he shouldn't be crossing, especially for a therapist, because when a therapist gets involved with a patient, it's not just his marriage that's at stake; his entire career is at stake. You can lose your license for getting too heavily involved with a patient. So he's really on the brink of throwing everything away. The way I see the role is that even as he's breaking down and having his own problems, he still somehow manages to be good at what he does. As the second act progresses, he's helping people get through [their hardships], almost in spite of himself. You know, where his life is a mess, but he still has this gift of helping other people, and he does it well.
Weekly: Do you find it funny that Peter, like Josh, loves the wrong woman?
Newman: [laughs] Well, which is the wrong woman [his wife or Leila]? Well, you know people are people, particularly men. Men are stupid [laughs]. You know, we just are. We do stupid things, and we turn to the wrong person for the wrong reasons thinking that there's some sort of answer there. And there really isn't for the most part; 99.9 percent of the time, there isn't. But I think he does redeem himself. I also like the way the play is structured. You know, [in] the first act, you have a lot of comedy, you have a lot of setting up of characters, you kind of get everyone in the right place. The second act actually becomes quite tragic. We've had some really extraordinary reactions. People weeping openly at certain points in the second act, whether it has to do with this married couple struggling in their lives [or] with the woman being abused by her husband.
Weekly: Regarding the performance of "Breathe" with Rachelle Rak (Leila) in the first act, how long did it take you to learn the choreography?
Newman: It took me like five seconds for the one in the first act. It's not that bad. The one that begins the second act takes a little bit longer. Rachelle is a fabulous dancer, and she basically just throws me around, and I'm just there for the ride [laughs]. She always there to make sure that I'm in the right place in the right moment, and we've been having a lot of fun with this piece.
Weekly: A lot of people might not realize that you sing and dance in this show. How would you describe this musical to non-Broadway showgoers?
Newman: Well, to me, it's actually a play. It's a play with music. If you think of something like Cats, that's clearly a musical. To me, there are some spectacular monologues in Sessions and scenes that could hold their own in any non-musical that's out there. To me, it's a play that also happens to be a musical.
Weekly: There are many moments where there is dialogue within the songs. Is that actually more fun than challenging?
Newman: No, they're fun. You know, I'm also an actor who sings. Singing is not my primary thing. It's something I work on diligently all the time; I'm still studying today. I've been studying for years, and to me, it's always a work in progress. But the two big solos that I do — the one at the beginning, and one at the end — they need to be acted. They can't just be sung in a pretty way, note for note. Particularly the first one ("I'm Only Human"), that's such a talky banter song. I had a lot of those when I did Nine, and that's just helping the audience to understand each lyric as it comes by, because they come by so quickly. The one that's later ("This Life of Mine") is really the peak of his emotional breakdown, and if I've done all the work I need to do emotionally up to that point, and taken the journey that Peter takes, and done it successfully, then by the time I sit down and begin to sing that song, I don't have to act at all. It's just where I'm at, and the song just sings itself. Oddly enough, they only put that song in about three weeks before I joined the show. [It's] what they call the 11 o'clock song, the "bring the house down" song late in the show. Before I stepped onstage, I had only listened to the CD once, I had only seen the show twice, and that's all I wanted to see. I did almost all the rehearsals by myself [laughs], downstairs in the theater in one of their rehearsal rooms, occasionally with the director, or with another actor, if I could get the actor. That was maybe a week of work, and then suddenly I was onstage and doing the show. Even what you're seeing right now, several weeks later, it almost feels like previews. And it changes all the time. We're still tweaking it; I know they're going to redo a lot of things in the first 30 minutes of the show. They're working on that right now. It's still a work in progress.
Weekly: Your run continues through August?
Newman: I'm booked through August 30, which is odd, because I won't be on that day, because Kim [Zimmer, Reva] and I are presenting at the Daytime Emmys. The hope is to move it to a bigger house after Labor Day, so we'll probably shut down for a couple of weeks and reblock the show for a bigger stage, and then hopefully be opening up at one of the bigger off-Broadway houses, probably sometime in mid-September.
Weekly: What are your general hopes for what Sessions will accomplish?
Newman: I just want it to be the best it can be. I think it's a story that's worth telling. I think one of the things Albert Tapper has landed on here is that people who are in the audience will relate to at least one story, if not several stories. It's one of those plays that can be done in regional theaters and colleges and universities all around the country one day. So that's my hope for it, is that we continue to fine-tune it, we continue until we get it to a place where eventually it will be put out there for the wider audience. That's my hope for the piece.
Weekly: Now, just some questions about GL; what are your general thoughts about the show ending? Is there anything you'd like to say about the wrap-up on CBS?
Newman: You know, it just is what it is. I've been through several different things emotionally about it, but I knew it was coming. I think some of us believed it was coming more than others, but I've been preparing for it for a long time. You know, I've always thought of it as a gig — it's just a gig. It just happens for me to have lasted 28 years, and I'm sure you've heard me quoted already saying, "I signed a three-year deal 28 years ago, and I don't really have a lot to complain about; I got my three years out of it." There are two areas where I just feel very sad, and one is for the audience. I've had a lot of fans talk to me about this. I did a big appearance down in South Carolina a couple weeks ago, and a lot of fans are really, truly devastated and sad, profoundly sad, and I feel for that, I really do, that this is gonna be done after they spent their whole lives watching and being entertained by these characters and crying with them and laughing with them and feeling with them and hurting with them. They're just gonna be gone — the story is done, it's over, goodbye. And the other thing for us in the studio [is that] I have a lot of friendships here, I have a lot of people that I care about a great deal, that I love, and that's gonna be tough. It's gonna be really tough to say goodbye.
Weekly: Yes. Having watched for about 28 years, I've been depressed. But I've talked to a few fans who have made it clear that while yes, it's like watching your own family, it's also a multigenerational thing. One person said his grandmother, who passed away, used to watch it with him.
Newman: I hear that all the time. "My mom and I used to watch the show and it was the only thing we ever talked about; we couldn't talk about other things." As you said to me the other night at the theater, I've had a lot of people saying to me that they feel like right now the show is in better shape than it's been in a while and it's very watchable. There's a lot of stories being told right now. It's sort of sad that this is the time that CBS decided to put an end to it. But change happens, and change can be a very powerful thing. It can be scary and weird and frightening and all those things, but it's also an opportunity to move forward and to do other things. I don't know if I'm talking to the fans now or talking to myself, quite frankly. But the only thing constant is change, and I think that [the viewers are] going to have to move on with their lives and find other sources of entertainment and storytelling.
Weekly: Definitely. And they can still watch a few GL actors on other shows.
Newman: That's true. Follow the other actors where their careers take them; that's true.
For more info on Sessions, please check out www.sessionsthemusical.com.
July 10, 2009
Fellow LIGHT-lovers, I recently caught a performance of Robert Newman's Sessions; here's my review.
NEWMAN'S "HUMAN" SESSIONS
The charming, heartwarming, often brilliant Sessions, starring GUIDING LIGHT's Robert Newman, holds more surprises than just several rarely seen sides of Josh's portrayer; it's a powerful, memorable theatre experience. The show, at Manhattan's Algonquin Theater, is not perfect — but its imperfections add to its charm, and its foundation of humanity makes it amazing.
Newman, a longtime stage actor who has starred in Nine, Shenandoah and several other productions, portrays Dr. Peter Peterson, a Manhattan therapist who leads a regular group session and offers a combination of understanding and wisdom that keeps his patients participating. Of course, Peter has his own problems, including an overbearing wife (who is unfortunately unshown, but the focus is on the people Peter can actually help) and a yearning for his lovely client Leila.
The conceit of each patient speaking or singing about their life works well; in fact, better than I expected. As lively numbers (starting with Peter and the ensemble's appealing "I'm Only Human") keep the show moving and the audience chuckling and captivated, a quiet yet pervasive sadness is practically part of the beautiful, multi-tiered set. As the players walk (and yes, sit) around the set — basically Peter's office, overlooking a Manhattan skyline — New York landmarks, from Bleecker Street to Roseland (and even a Starbucks on 57th!), are often mentioned, proof that writer Albert Tapper knows the Huge Apple. Staten Islanders will likely grin at the joke regarding their borough.
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Robert Newman's latest theater role is Sessions's Dr. Peter Peterson.
— Murray Head
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There is much more than light chatting in this production. Even when the beaming Sunshine (as brought to life by the delightful Kelli Maguire) reveals that she's ready to leave the group, the question looms: Does she truly "have it all together," and is her imminent departure from therapy a blessing, a blind escape or something worse? How long can someone, as the song goes, stay "Above the Clouds"?
Peter finds it hard to go above his feelings for Leila, and while Newman displays his excellent singing skills (and considerable acting talents) throughout the show, the little gestures and noises she and her fellow group members inspire in Peter are a laugh-out-loud bonus. Breathing is Peter and Leila's throughline, as displayed in the wonderfully raunchy "Breathe," and later in the show. Rachelle Rak is a marvel as she drifts between Leila's wild and sensitive sides.
While arguably one of the strongest soloes is Scott Richard Foster's "Wendy," in which George's line to his ex, "I swallowed all my pride to make this call," grows more passionate and affecting, the finest song is Mary's "This is One River I Can't Cross." That performance has Natalie Buster (who filled in for Liz Larsen the night I watched the show) and Newman display a warm connection amid the touching lyrics. (Of course, Newman's GL character knows all about a woman trying to cross a body of water.) Mary's "Feels Like Home" is also quite effective; one of the several astonishing lyrics explaining why she stays with her abusive husband is "Your rage...it keeps me safe."
The sentiment of "You Should Dance," dance when you're depressed, is the crux of the show and story — and yes, there certainly is choreography (GL's Reva would comment, "Bud can dance!"). Choreographer Penny Ayn Mass uses the full space to its highest potential, and the multi-character dances offer several stories for the audience's eyes. Although Newman contended to me that the show is in fact "a play with music," this aspect is definitely on the "yes, this is a musical" side. Certain moments, such as the ensemble's last line in "Above the Clouds," are a tad corny, but they still serve to entertain.
Dialogue — both humorous and heavy — is often inventively mixed into the music, as in the stormy song "Living Out a Lie," when Peter tells a pained George, "We're all struggling human beings trying to get through life. That's what makes us human." One character who struggles with being in the group itself is Dylan, who adds sarcasm while finding solace in "becoming" Bob Dylan (Sky Seals is on target in both the impression and in slowly bringing out his character's depth). Businessman Baxter reveals his difficult relationship with his dad as portrayer Al Bundonis nails all of the character's emotional subtleties. Baxter proves to be a fun foil for Peter, especially in a chair-stealing scene. You want to learn much more about these characters and their groupmates, but what you do learn within the show's two acts is engaging and funny, while very moving and — thanks to the energy and dedication of the actors — stunning.
The best aspect of each actor's performance, especially in Newman's case, is that you forget it's a performance and get wrapped up in each character and the story. That is difficult to find in a theater show, but the ensemble, directed by Thomas Coté, makes it look easy. One of my only concerns was that the Murphys' storyline started out somewhat typically (the couple fought over trivial matters like a Scrabble game), but those worries were soon assuaged, in large part due to one word (hint: It starts with r) by Mr. Murphy in the second act. Ken Jennings is a far-from-quiet riot and Bertilla Baker plays the instigator to the hilarious hilt.
Peter also has to fight, or work with, The Voice (apparently his inner voice, amusingly portrayed in this performance by Dennis Holland), which is occasionally overkill but generally succeeds as yet another problematic layer in Peter's mental cake. One truly wants Newman's character to help these people to help themselves, which is what this story's about, but you wonder if his hidden misgivings and issues will prove to be fierce opponents to his goal of saving his "team."
I'm generally anti-spoilers, but I have to say this: No matter who you are or how jaded or worried you've become, the finale will stop you in your tracks for at least a few minutes. If you like musicals, see this show. If you like soap operas, see this show. If you like New York City, see this show. If you like love, see Sessions...and see which "character" you are.
In my next entry, look for part 2 (Or would that be act 2?) of this Sessions report, featuring my interview with Newman, in which he discusses how he found himself in Sessions ("I'm drawn to characters, like Joshua, who are broken and at a turning point in their lives"), how he juggles GL and the off-Broadway show, and the intense reactions audience members have had to the production. By the way, Newman appears in Sessions until late August; check out www.sessionsthemusical.com for more information.
If you attend a performance, please feel free to post a comment on it. (The comments below regard a previous blog entry about the Save the Light Rally; click onto page 2 below to read that and my other entries.)
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While I don't doubt the passion of those who showed up, with the amount of publicity that was with this rally, 30 people seems to not really reflect the suppose large masses, or really make the show that viable to other networks--I read at my own online about people not showing up at another rally. It anything, it shows that while the internet soap fan may be passionate, that they are the minority and not reflective of the soap viewers. You can have over 4,000 people on a message board, but it doesn't always translate into action.
If you've never organized a rally you don't realize how hard these things really are. People don't protest with signs on a public street when their civil rights are being stripped from them. You cna't expect a "mass turnout" for anything including free food on a workday morning. What matters to the networks and the advertisers is letters and phone calls that illustrate that you're watching and responding.
I wonder if it might have been because many of those 4000 do not live in or near NYC and for whom it would have been cost prohibitive to travel there?
Ditto the comment about not living in NYC. I live in the UK and would have been there like a shot if it wasn't a 7 hour flight. I know of another 400 people in the same position as myself, all outside the U.S. No less passionate that the people on the street, just less able to get there!
I guess the first commenter thinks that we all have wings to fly to NYC whenever we want. Since I do not, I have campaigned in other ways: postcards, emails, phonecalls, etc. Think before you speak, and you might find your logic is lacking. There is a lot of love, and a lot of work being put into saving GL. Just because we can't make it to NYC doesn't detract from any of that.
Not to mention all the international individuals who could not make it across their country into ours despite NYC's open arms concerning such. While many of us were unable to rally in person we were there in spirit, we have you on our DVR's we have placed you within the heralds of our praise upon twitters, live journals, blogs, youtube, and everywhere else. We can assure you are and were appreciated and even if there were only 30 of you physically there... there were indeed FOUR THOUSAND of us with you in spirit and intention. While you rallied, we marched on our own with support online. We are not a minority.. Just to be & love. We are a Movement.
I am disabled so making any trip is too hard. That does not in any way take away from my passion to SAVE THE LIGHT and I hope all our efforts are successful. I fear we may truly have to say goodbye...but not without every effort possible. CBS - do you hear us? Lifetime, Oxygen and Sopenet.......please hear us...SAVE THE LIGHT.
We were recognized, we were appreciated, and fans and their signs were seen on television. It was a great day for a rally, and it was great getting to know other fans from all walks of life. Thanks for covering it, Marc!
Here come the masses to tell me why I'm wrong to question. I've worked on rallys, successfully, and know what goes into it, which I why I asked the questions. So you're telling me there's not a single fan in the Pittsburgh area that was able to go? And looking at that website it doesn't seem like another rally was put together (besides no one showing up in Pittsburgh). I don't doubt the passion of the fans (and I'd love to hear about ideas for fans/international fans and fans on the net and a successful business model to go with producing a show). The numbers, to me, don't bring about the same amount of action as say the protests at DAYS years ago.
I've seen Sessions and really did enjoy it. Robert did a great job, but someone needs to tell him, no eye brow pencil, it was WAY distracting! But, other than that, loved the show and the actors in it. As for GL the whole thing is beyond sad and as a viewer since 1985, I feel really betrayed by the show and TPTB. Had they listened to the fans just ONCE, maybe we wouldn't be in cancellation! EW and company just forged ahead, no thought to what the viewers wanted. Sad, very sad!
I think if the show had stayed true to its core and kept the Bauers and old faves like Nola around it would not have been canceled
I have been watching GL for 30 years -since I was 16. Yes, I am sad to see it go, but the writers are making the script more unrealistic by the day. And why do they not write Lizzy's pregnancy into the script. Do they really think she can hide that belly behind her purse, just as they did with Natalia.
WOW I am 43 and have watch GL since I was 4. At one time we had 4 generations watching together. My grandmother was disabled from parkinsons and diabetes. So we would watch tv with her. When visiting her in nursing home shortly before she died she was watching. So grandma, my mother, myself and my daughter watched it. It was around the Amish Reva time. We would laugh because I have Amish neighbors. I am sad to see this show be replaced. The familes are so near and dear to so many world wide. I have seen a lot of old characters coming home to visit before finale. I will say I think the finale should of been a July 4th barbecue week long special. So God Bless America and all the employees of GL
I too have watched GL my entire life. I am 46 now. I remember my mom watched it when I was a pre-schooler, and I watched with her. Then I became hooked myself and I was overjoyed when VCRs became available! Even though I would get angry with the writers at times for writing off people I loved (Jackie Marler, Carrie Marler, Lujack, and Gus just to name a few), my daily schedule has always included GL at 3pm on CBS. It's just a part of my psyche. I don't know how I'll feel on that last day when it really is over. Does any true GL fan really know how they'll feel? Right now I feel like I hope whoever made the decision to end GL at CBS falls into total financial ruin and ends up homeless. Sorry, but I'm not ready to forgive yet.
I was first introduced to Guiding Light as a toddler. It was a 15 minute soap opera on the radio. My grandmother listened to all of radio soaps. When I started school, I would rush home in time to listen to at least Guiding Light. I then followed it to TV. Watching when I could during my working years,and taping once VCR came into use. At age 75 I am still invested in the show and very unhappy thar it is ending. There are so many bad soaps still surviving, I cannot understand how they can continue and Guiding light cannot. I am still hoping someone will decide to save there great characters. I watch other soaps, but when this one ends my soap opera days will also end,as it will with many of mu friends.. r take off the best, who needs the rest
I have been watching GL for about 30 years also and I almost quit watching it, but then saw they were bringing Phillip back and I continued watching and I'm really glad I did. I think GL has been a lot better with all the old characters coming back. Any chance they could get another station to pick it up?
Totally stressed out about GL leaving. I was born in 1935, have listened to GL when it was on the radio (after school)since about 1945 and over the years when home w/small children and not working. Now that I am no longer working, I had hoped that I could continue to watch GL and ATWT and "keep up with my "Family". (I am an only child.... and my children are grown and moved away) With all the "bad news" in "real life" this was a refreshing break in the day!
Isn't the problem about the rally the fact that the handwriting had been on the wall for years and everyone knew it was inevitable the show would be cancelled. Another, factor was the audience detested the production model and the writing team and was not committed to fight one more day for the show if they remained in charge.
I am not going to be original this time, so all I am going to say that your blog rocks, sad that I don't have suck a writing skills
No matter what others say, I think it is still interesting and useful maybe necessary to improve some minor things
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